Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 17:32     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker

The basic convo was: We were all perfect princesses until we married our TERRIBLE husbands, whom we knew were terrible but married anyway because of: church, patriarchy, culture BS? And now that we’re free, we’re PERFECT again! Tra-la-la. (Jane Capstitcher scribe, I love you!


Basically, Glennon, Jamie, Kristen and Jen are kind of crazy. Always victims. Always love telling others how to live their lives, with a generous sprinkling of profanity and irreverence. I'm glad FOR Jamie that she has kind of faded away on sm and is focused on her local family and causes.

Any more word about Together Rising and Legacy Collective biting the dust?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 17:29     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Kristen would give her older son expensive ear buds and other items, which would then get stolen, which she would then blame on racism. Meanwhile, he and his black brother are the most popular kids in school.
She can't have it both ways. What a loon.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 16:54     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker

Teeth too white but she looks damn good and like she knows how to have fun.


Tina seems sweet and somewhat normal, but I can't help thinking some ex-boyfriend paid for those teeth and boobs. No judgment. But veneers are hella expensive. Probably as much as the implants.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 14:14     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Kristen was a big deal in the international adoption circles. I found Jen through Kristen and found Jen more relatable. Even back then, Kristen seemed like she was apologizing for being Christian and it turned me off. I was still a pretty hardcore JH fangirl when I met Kristen and probably would have peed myself if I'd met Jen instead. With Kristen it was more of a "Hey, I read your blog, cool!" but I'd have probably moved myself into corn eater status if I'd have come face-to-face with the great Jen Hatmaker in 2017.

I hate seeing how far she's fallen. Def. not a fangirl anymore and any remnants of admiration for her were long gone after I learned about corn eaters. But it's still kinda sad.

Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 13:59     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

I had never heard of Kristen until she was on Jen’s Divorce Rant podcast (with Jamie Wright too).

What a sh*tshow that conversation was.

The basic convo was: We were all perfect princesses until we married our TERRIBLE husbands, whom we knew were terrible but married anyway because of: church, patriarchy, culture BS? And now that we’re free, we’re PERFECT again! Tra-la-la. (Jane Capstitcher scribe, I love you!)
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 13:55     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Is Tyler standing next to his white girlfriend on her birthday trip wearing a tshirt that says black women are superheroes? 😆
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 13:34     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

I met Kristen H. & her kids quite randomly a few years back. She was polite in the "I'm the queen, you're the peasant" kind of way and her kids seemed to have that self-important air, too. My adopted internationally, too, and I used to follow her when she was Rage Against the Minivan and loved her writing. I was less enamored of her after meeting her in person and shortly after that, she started some kind of "a-hole parents" movement that I found off-putting. I don't even look anymore
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 13:25     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:
Kristen has no class, she’s a therapist who publicly trashes her ex all the time. The father of her kids. He may be slime but the public passive aggressive comments are unprofessional. I’d never see her for counseling.



Really? Where? I've never seen her do this and I've followed her a long time. I remember her being pretty chummy with her ex after their divorce. And even in her book she didn't trash him or really spill any tea. (I admit I was disappointed.) If there is tea I've missed please point me to it!



On twitter or X every few weeks, along with other im better than you or how dare you comments about anything and everything.

Sad as I likes her long form writing but her twitter writing is from privilege.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 13:10     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:Just saw a picture from her birthday post with Jen surrounded by like 20 women in a hotel room.

This is why I can’t take Jen’s racial advocacy seriously. When you make a huge portion of your career about women and lifting up other women and the importance of female friendships above all but you don’t allow any women of color near your inner circle despite living in one of the most diverse parts of the country, it shows a lot about true values.


Austin is NOT diverse. Buda even absurdly less so.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 12:41     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker

Really? Where? I've never seen her do this and I've followed her a long time. I remember her being pretty chummy with her ex after their divorce. And even in her book she didn't trash him or really spill any tea. (I admit I was disappointed.) If there is tea I've missed please point me to it!


I saw Kristen post about her ex on twitter. She said he's moved away to another state and is no longer involved in the kids' lives. I didn't take it as her trashing him, more just saying what was going on. Isn't he a family therapist too? Man, these therapists who can't stay married or even stick around for their kids is something.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 11:58     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:In other Instagram news, Jen is giving away a free cruise for you and a friend, which indicates it's not selling as she anticipated.

It has a whopping two entries on IG so I took a peek on FB. It has more traction there but not an astronomical response. She's asking for her fans to "nominate someone who is crushing this thing we call life."

One person on FB has nominated herself citing that she's "faithful while deconstructing Oregon mama" and I read it without my readers and thought it said "faithful WHITE deconstructing Oregon mama" LOL.

In other news around the internet, Tina Hatmaker's profile is now public.

These people, man. They are more entertaining than the Australian breakdancing zero score girl.


It's not uncommon for event organizers to promote something that's not selling. The giveaway at this point in time is not earthshattering and it might give one of her fangirls who can't afford the cruise a chance to go.

What is a little gross to me is that she's wanting "nominations" without giving any specific criteria on how to nominate or how she'll select the winner. I could see her picking someone who has gone through a divorce and trotting her "inspirational story" out for a photo opp. I don't see it being a peaceful cruise at all but more being on call as "Jen's special guest." That's a little cringy
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 11:40     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is talking about the teeth (rudely) and I’m wondering where the heck she even came from. Jen never mentioned her and then out of the blue, this woman over a decade younger is their new bff. It seems like her husband bought her into the group with gifts like Vespas for everybody and trips away whereas that Other heavyset woman who is sometimes in their bff photos and sometimes not seems to have been passed over for a BFF promotion.

I’m sure Jen would love a dark-skinned friend to validate her posturing as an “ally” yet with these types of people and groups, you have to pay a hefty entrance fee to get in the door and if you’re a POC especially, I’m sure you have to pay a hefty price in self-worth to stay in the door.

Someone already said it that the kids didn’t have a choice to be adopted and the bf w/o any black friends either is obviously just in it for the promo.

Not saying Jen is racist but I agree it’s telling and way too common with sjw White feminism. Posting about anti-racism and diversity and MLK but putting up subtle barriers to keep POC at a distance.

Imagine what it could do for the self-esteem of child like R to see her mom embrace a black woman as she embraces white women, in a deep enduring, ride or die type of friendship.


I think, to a large degree, the entire progressive thing is largely about image rather than substance, about being seen striking the right poses and signaling for the right causes rather than actually living anything out. It's what the late writer Tom Wolfe referred to as "radical chic."

I was in a church full of these sorts of people for over a decade. A large contingent of the women were Glennon and Jen fans who advocated social justice causes and posted about racism on their Facebook pages, etc. Ironically, the most authentic members of our church, who ministered to all kinds of people in all kinds of low key, non-flashy ways, were the most theologically and politically conservative family in the church. The husband voted for Trump. He also mentored young black men in the Chicago public school system. He was there for me when I had a major mental health issue.

It reminds me of Jesus words: "for that which is highly esteemed among men is detestable in the sight of God."


Progressivism is fashionable in these circles. Feminism too. But a lot of it is just empty posing, as you said.

I work in media and by far the nastiest most back stabbing most anti-women managers and editors are the loudest public “feminists”.


This may be anecdotal, but I’m seeing a big shift in “real life”. I have several super progressive, white women in my family. Their social media accounts from 2016-2022’ish were NON-STOP liberal campaigns. The black squares, the Jan 6 pictures, the pink p*ssy hats, abortion is healthcare, all of it. My COUSIN literally said (via Instagram), that anyone not aligning with her political beliefs should “remove themselves” from her life. Lol. No one did, of course.

Now? Complete SILENCE. They’re still active on social media, but post NOTHING political. No Kamala ads, no “the boxer is a woman!” posts, not even a single mention of Palestine.

What happened???
Is anyone else seeing the same with their “real life” people?


Maybe slightly less. The "worst offenders" in my personal circle have been quieter but I think they're just starting to get amped up for the elections, LOL. I also think there has been some settling and maybe a small shift toward center for some of them. Might have something to do with the economy, might have something to do with the fact that women's spaces are being taken away from us, or might have something to do with feeling the alienation that resulted from posts like that. Who knows? I consider myself just right of center but over the past eight years, my more blue leaning friends have slid waaaayyyyy left and now I am "uber right wing" in their eyes, which is not how I see myself or view the world.

Out of all my black square pink cooter hat posting friends, I know two that actually give their time to the causes they believe in.



I am pretty liberal but all that was exhausting. I also have a job that doesn't allow me to post about politics so I have found more enriching conversations with friends. Even my trump friends seem tired of it all, we just want to have peace and happy families.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 11:24     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:Ok damn Tina. Teeth too white but she looks damn good and like she knows how to have fun. Major second wife energy. Don’t screw this up Brandon.


She gives kind of a Dolly Parton energy like she's not trying to pass any of her enhancements off as real but is living her life and having a good time. Not like "miss I just ate a few more vegetables."
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 11:10     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Ok damn Tina. Teeth too white but she looks damn good and like she knows how to have fun. Major second wife energy. Don’t screw this up Brandon.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2024 11:07     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:Before we continue going down the path of Brando is a normal dude - it looks like he changed his IG to toptentexas and in the bio is seeking partners and collaborators. So he’s decided to pivot and go hard down the influencer hole.


Interesting. Is he still doing that real estate thing?