Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP.

I care. Family members of the murderer are unlikely to see things clearly.

I hope Jennifer’s kids are doing well.

The judge doesn’t care what we think and s/he isn’t reading this forum.

Exactly. Yet we are still here to discuss. I appreciate PP’s insight.

PP’s insight into the family of the the murderer? Like she knows them?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP.

I care. Family members of the murderer are unlikely to see things clearly.

I hope Jennifer’s kids are doing well.

The judge doesn’t care what we think and s/he isn’t reading this forum.

Exactly. Yet we are still here to discuss. I appreciate PP’s insight.

Anonymous wrote:NP.

I care. Family members of the murderer are unlikely to see things clearly.

I hope Jennifer’s kids are doing well.

The judge doesn’t care what we think and s/he isn’t reading this forum.

NP.

I care. Family members of the murderer are unlikely to see things clearly.

I hope Jennifer’s kids are doing well.

Anonymous wrote:Just FYI the person who has continuously posted about why grandma (aka "Gloria") will not be granted custody is most definitely Greek and very likely either the murderer's sister or someone who knows the family. They have been posting for a long time and can be identified in earlier posts because they continuously spell the last name "Doulos," which only a Greek person would do. They also continuously call the murderer "Fotis," showing familiarity. In addition, they are the only person who has indicated that there is any significance in the grandmother being Jewish and the children being Christian- something that only a Greek person (likely a family member) would remotely care about. Finally, there are quite a few 'tells' in the grammatical construction of their English that reveal that the posts have been written by a person whose first/primary language is Greek. (as many others have noted: there are also abundant "tells" that the poster is wholly unfamiliar with custody/family court and the practice of family law in the US.)

Um okay? Why do you care? We are not the ones deciding custody.

Just FYI the person who has continuously posted about why grandma (aka "Gloria") will not be granted custody is most definitely Greek and very likely either the murderer's sister or someone who knows the family. They have been posting for a long time and can be identified in earlier posts because they continuously spell the last name "Doulos," which only a Greek person would do. They also continuously call the murderer "Fotis," showing familiarity. In addition, they are the only person who has indicated that there is any significance in the grandmother being Jewish and the children being Christian- something that only a Greek person (likely a family member) would remotely care about. Finally, there are quite a few 'tells' in the grammatical construction of their English that reveal that the posts have been written by a person whose first/primary language is Greek. (as many others have noted: there are also abundant "tells" that the poster is wholly unfamiliar with custody/family court and the practice of family law in the US.)

They're turning the Jennifer Dulos case into a movie. Annabeth Gish will play the main character in GONE MOM on June 5th at 8PM.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/04/jennifer-dulos-anna-gristina-cases-to-be-featured-on-lifetime/

Anonymous wrote:Why is her attorney releasing these? Don’t they implicate her? She is guilty as sin and I hope she rots in jail the murderous homewrecker.

It shows she didn't dispose of evidence herself or even touch it. It was all Fotis...who coincidentally is dead. He didn't, and no longer can, testify against her as a accomplice. She has no reason to really cooperate with the DA now that his trial is cancelled, and what's more -- they never found the wife's body.

They have nothing on her.

Why is her attorney releasing these? Don’t they implicate her? She is guilty as sin and I hope she rots in jail the murderous homewrecker.

I thought they had dumped the bags in the dead of night. Didn't realize they'd done that in broad daylight.

Here's the girlfriend, Michelle Troconis, leaning out of the same truck to wipe her hands on the nasty concrete.

They've released the video of Fotis Dulos dumping bags of evidence all around Hartford, CT on the day Jennifer died. The girlfriend was in the car at the time. Jennifer's body still hasn't been found.

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You seriously did not even read your own link. No grandparent or third party has visitation "rights" in Connecticut. They have a right to petition for visitation. Grandparents and other third parties who can establish that they had a "parent-like" relationship with a child can petition the court for visitation. The fact that the children may have occasionally vacationed with their aunt does not demonstrate that they had a "parent-like" relationship.

You are also completely misreading the mention of grandparent visitation in the case of adoption. There is no right of biological grandparents to petition for visitation for their biological grandchildren who have been adopted. The mention of adoption merely clarifies that grandparents of ADOPTIVE children and grandchildren may petition just as biological grandparents may do. But if a grandparent's child relinquishes their child for adoption, the legal tie is severed from both first parent and first grandparent.

That's not what it says at all. 1)When the parents give the child for adoption and relinquish their parental rights, the biological grandparents have a right to petition the court to have visitation with the adopted child. Whether the adoptive grandparents can see the adopted child is the same as whether a grandparent can visit the child. What the guidelines state is that even if the child is adopted and the bio grandparents want to see the child, they can do that. 2) "the court shall grant the right of visitation with any minor child to any person if the court finds after hearing and by clear and convincing evidence that a parent-like relationship exists between the person and the minor child and denial of visitation would cause real and significant harm."

the link was posted because a poster said that no grandparents, or anyone else can ask the court to have visitation and that was incorrect. Second, this is not the case about a parent against a grandparent. We have not even reached that yet. Right now first there is going to be a trial to determine which court has jurisdiction to decide the final custody disposition. Then there is going to be a second trial deciding who will be the permanent guardian. It can be anyone, as long as that person petitions the court and the judge decides to award custody to that person. Even the nanny has the right to file for full custody. The longer this drags out the more dangerous becomes for Gloria because she will be 86 years old and anything can happen with ones health at that point. I agree with other posters, it is very peculiar why they do not put the sister forward to ask for custody. She is in her 50s and the court would find it more persuasive to award custody to her as she will say I have my mother and the nannies to assist me in taking care of my nieces and nephews.

BTW, I was just watching a case where the judge awarded guardianship of an elderly woman with Alzheimer who is placed at a nursing home, to her daughter in law, the son was dead for more than 3 years, and the daughter was petitioning to get guardianship of her mother. The judge found that the woman's own daughter was not fit to be guardian of the mother, so nobody should presume that the court makes decisions based on how we think everybody else thinks, or how judges think.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have this sweet ideas about child custody based on what they have seen in the movies. For example, many believe that just because they write in their will they want a specific person to get custody upon their death, that's how the custody goes. Nope, the judge decides and it goes by degree of relationship to the parent, age, financial means, ability to supervise the children, mental and physical capacity, etc. If the parents are divorced, unless the court has stripped the non custodial parent, that spouse will get immediate custody. Also, it does not matter whether the person petitioning for custody lives in Greece. At a minimum Gloria will be required to sent the children for two months vacation to Greece and on holidays and she will have to pay for it. She will also be required to provide full information about their educational and medical activities to the aunt. If Gloria dies, the custody hearing opens again, if she is awarded custody now. The aunt has a very good chance to get physical custody if she applies for it because Gloria is over 80 years old and was so hostile towards their dad. If it is true that Gloria also had psychiatric treatment, that will also count against her. That's the law, sorry.

Haha. This is hilarious and not how it works at all. Non-parents do not have visitation rights. And a US court is not going to send US children abroad when there is a viable US option. But keep posting your fantasies, they are very entertaining.

Yes they do, especially when either of the parent is dead the visitation is transferred to a grandparent or sibling. In this case both parents are dead and Gloria has been hostile to the other parent. Whether the there is a viable option -and Gloria wont be viable by any court - US courts had sent children to live overseas. This is not Iran, that's not how US law works. The USA is a signatory of both parts of the Hague convention and as such it has nothing with citizenship of the child but the court that has jurisdiction of the child and despite Gloria's attempts to move the case to NY, the custody will be adjudicated in CT and the judge will decide who will get custody. The courts even allow for the parent to move overseas with the kids. Here we do not even have a parent. I remind you that US courts sent Elian Gonzalez back to Cuba. So many cases, Kelly Rutherford, the gossip girl, Sarah Kurtz, just a few recent cases in the news where the US courts sent us citizen children who had lived all their lives here to live permanently overseas. The law in CT allows visitation rights to be granted to "any person" Roth v Weston (2002). Actually, even if a child has been adopted, the biological grandparent has the right to get visitations. Tha'ts straight from the CT court about visitation rights of non-parents. https://www.jud.ct.gov/lawlib/Notebooks/Pathfinders/RightsofGrandparents/Grandparent.pdf

You seriously did not even read your own link. No grandparent or third party has visitation "rights" in Connecticut. They have a right to petition for visitation. Grandparents and other third parties who can establish that they had a "parent-like" relationship with a child can petition the court for visitation. The fact that the children may have occasionally vacationed with their aunt does not demonstrate that they had a "parent-like" relationship.

You are also completely misreading the mention of grandparent visitation in the case of adoption. There is no right of biological grandparents to petition for visitation for their biological grandchildren who have been adopted. The mention of adoption merely clarifies that grandparents of ADOPTIVE children and grandchildren may petition just as biological grandparents may do. But if a grandparent's child relinquishes their child for adoption, the legal tie is severed from both first parent and first grandparent.

From what it has been posted, Fotis have come from at least upper class family. He went to one of the most exclusive private schools in Europe, grew up skiing and waterskiing, attended Brown and MBA from Columbia. The sister seems to have been travelling back and forth with ease, the ticket is over $1000 each time. I assume that from the $1.6 million that was spent in attorneys between him and Jennifer during the divorce, he must have spent $800K too. Plus the attorneys for the criminal case, and the financial case. Where do all this money came from?