Anonymous
01/17/2015 19:30
Subject: Re:terrorist attack in Paris
Muslima wrote:So, after Islam was practiced for over 1000 years in Afghanistan, women were forced to dress a certain way but Islam is to blame? Good thought process, good throughout process!! People got it wrong for over 1000 years....
Could you explain a little more? This makes no sense, from any point of view. Sounds like you're trying to be sarcastic about Islam requiring women to veil for 1000 years in Afghanistan. But you can't mean that, can you?
Muslima
01/17/2015 19:12
Subject: Re:terrorist attack in Paris
So, after Islam was practiced for over 1000 years in Afghanistan, women were forced to dress a certain way but Islam is to blame? Good thought process, good throughout process!! People got it wrong for over 1000 years....
Anonymous
01/17/2015 19:08
Subject: Re:terrorist attack in Paris
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks.like they were actually happy... ( Afghanistan, 70s)
You took a picture of women from the educated urban class and swallowed the line that the entire country looked that way.
Women in rural Afghanistan routinely covered. So did women in Iran outside of educated urban class.
So you're point is, let's make all women dress like rural and/or uneducated women?
One of my best friends growing up was Iranian, they fled. Her family was upper middle class, her mother and father both had good jobs. They were very sad about what had happened to their country.
Anonymous
01/17/2015 19:06
Subject: Re:terrorist attack in Paris
So did women in Iran outside of educated urban class.
Bingo!
Anonymous
01/17/2015 19:01
Subject: Re:terrorist attack in Paris
Anonymous wrote:Looks.like they were actually happy... ( Afghanistan, 70s)
You took a picture of women from the educated urban class and swallowed the line that the entire country looked that way.
Women in rural Afghanistan routinely covered. So did women in Iran outside of educated urban class.
Anonymous
01/17/2015 18:57
Subject: Re:terrorist attack in Paris
Looks.like they were actually happy... ( Afghanistan, 70s)
Anonymous
01/17/2015 18:57
Subject: Re:terrorist attack in Paris
Anonymous wrote:If a person grows up in a country with certain laws that are supposed to be followed, whether for dress, behavior, taxes, etc., then we can't say a person has a choice--except to break the law.
Not grows up, lives.
Women who live in France and in the West in general clearly aren't under any obligation to cover their faces (or indeed any part of their bodies except the naughtiest bits). To me, this says a woman who covers her face in the West has made a choice to do so.
Anonymous
01/17/2015 18:37
Subject: terrorist attack in Paris
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Please. Grow up. The issue is Muslima speaking for niqab-wearing women, not some fake fantasy about notarized statements you concocted in your head to score points on some mom's chat board. Ugh.
No. The issue is that you don't believe any woman would choose to dress differently from you, and those who do must be brainwashed.
No one is qualified to speak for niqab-wearing women, but on that continuum, she's a much better qualified spokesperson than you, who probably never met, spoken to or befriended a niqabi.
Total BS. It's impossible to talk to somebody who puts words into my mouth. Go away.
And take that self-righteousness and shove it. I've lived overseas and I have many Muslim friends. You're an a$$ for assuming you know anything about me or the other posters here.
You're so cute when you're angry.
I'll go away when I see fit. That makes you angry. It also makes me chuckle.
Wow. You don't just twist peoples' words, you don't just practice bogus mind-reading powers about peoples' motives... you also pretend to yourself that people care enough about you to be irritated by you.
I think I'll just ignore you. Then you won't be able to keep pretending that you're all-seeing and all-powerful. Oh dear.
Anonymous
01/17/2015 18:37
Subject: Re:terrorist attack in Paris
If a person grows up in a country with certain laws that are supposed to be followed, whether for dress, behavior, taxes, etc., then we can't say a person has a choice--except to break the law.
Anonymous
01/17/2015 18:33
Subject: terrorist attack in Paris
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Please. Grow up. The issue is Muslima speaking for niqab-wearing women, not some fake fantasy about notarized statements you concocted in your head to score points on some mom's chat board. Ugh.
No. The issue is that you don't believe any woman would choose to dress differently from you, and those who do must be brainwashed.
No one is qualified to speak for niqab-wearing women, but on that continuum, she's a much better qualified spokesperson than you, who probably never met, spoken to or befriended a niqabi.
Total BS. It's impossible to talk to somebody who puts words into my mouth. Go away.
And take that self-righteousness and shove it. I've lived overseas and I have many Muslim friends. You're an a$$ for assuming you know anything about me or the other posters here.
You're so cute when you're angry.
I'll go away when I see fit. That makes you angry. It also makes me chuckle.
Anonymous
01/17/2015 18:13
Subject: Re:terrorist attack in Paris
This is how women used the dress in Kabul, Afghanistan, in the 1970s
(Source: http://www.amnesty.org.uk/womens-rights-afghanistan-history#.VLrr0sso7qA )
(Source: http://www.amnesty.org.uk/womens-rights-afghanistan-history#.VLrr0sso7qA )
Anonymous
01/17/2015 17:50
Subject: terrorist attack in Paris
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....
Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.
Stop your lies, just because you are too narrow-minded to imagine that millions of women actually CHOOSE to wear a niqab doesn't mean the rest of the world uses your thought process. I have stated many times, that SOME women are forced to dress a certain way EVERYWHERE in the world be it a Niqab, a Hijab, a Miniskirt, or a Bikini. Get a grip and stop thinking the world revolves around what is normalized in your head.
I am interested in knowing where, in this world, women are FORCED to wear a miniskirt or a bikini?????
They're not.
In fact, I wore shorter skirts (not minis) through my early 30s- pre-kids. I CHOSE to wear them and then I CHOSE to stop wearing them.
Muslima - What's your comeback for this?
Keep telling that to yourself
You have not yet answered the question bolded above.
Still waiting, Muslima. Time is a’wastin’.
Anonymous
01/17/2015 17:49
Subject: terrorist attack in Paris
Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....
Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.
Just like you can't imagine that some choose to dress that way. Typical white girl arrogance - thinks she needs to save the brown natives and enlighten them.
Typical PP arrogance - twists my post that "some don't" into "you can't imagine that some do." Do you use logic much? Do understand how the word "some" was used in the post you responded to?
Also, you're an arrogant jerk because you have no clue what my skin color is.
Typical Muslima arrogance - writing that "the niqbis of the world" are all biting their nails. Every single one of them.
It's not my fault if you have comprehension issues...
Muslima, for your own good, you need to take a break from posting. Now. Once in a while you start acting like a petulant child. This is one of those moments, because you most certainly did imply that all the niqab-wearing women do it by choice. Take a deep breath, go do something else, and come back when you can conduct yourself like an adult.
Actually, I think you weird insistence that every niqabi woman should carry a notarized statement that she's wearing it on her own free will, and be ready to produce it for you at a moment's notice, is way more childish.
+1 We should also outlaw sexual intercourse. We have evidence that women are being raped daily, hourly by men in this country, being forced by men in this country to copulate, so from now on, for security reasons and for the wellbeing of all women in the world, we have to ban sexual intercourse. Every 107 seconds, a woman in America is being sexually assaulted. Given all these facts, we can only agree that those women who enjoy this act, are clearly brainwashed into thinking that it is good for them , we need to liberate them!
Don't be stupid. People are trying to have an adult discussion here.
Muslima
01/17/2015 17:48
Subject: terrorist attack in Paris
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....
Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.
Just like you can't imagine that some choose to dress that way. Typical white girl arrogance - thinks she needs to save the brown natives and enlighten them.
Typical PP arrogance - twists my post that "some don't" into "you can't imagine that some do." Do you use logic much? Do understand how the word "some" was used in the post you responded to?
Also, you're an arrogant jerk because you have no clue what my skin color is.
Typical Muslima arrogance - writing that "the niqbis of the world" are all biting their nails. Every single one of them.
It's not my fault if you have comprehension issues...
Muslima, for your own good, you need to take a break from posting. Now. Once in a while you start acting like a petulant child. This is one of those moments, because you most certainly did imply that all the niqab-wearing women do it by choice. Take a deep breath, go do something else, and come back when you can conduct yourself like an adult.
Actually, I think you weird insistence that every niqabi woman should carry a notarized statement that she's wearing it on her own free will, and be ready to produce it for you at a moment's notice, is way more childish.
+1 We should also outlaw sexual intercourse. We have evidence that women are being raped daily, hourly by men in this country, being forced by men in this country to copulate, so from now on, for security reasons and for the wellbeing of all women in the world, we have to ban sexual intercourse. Every 107 seconds, a woman in America is being sexually assaulted. Given all these facts, we can only agree that those women who enjoy this act, are clearly brainwashed into thinking that it is good for them , we need to liberate them!
Anonymous
01/17/2015 17:48
Subject: terrorist attack in Paris
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Please. Grow up. The issue is Muslima speaking for niqab-wearing women, not some fake fantasy about notarized statements you concocted in your head to score points on some mom's chat board. Ugh.
No. The issue is that you don't believe any woman would choose to dress differently from you, and those who do must be brainwashed.
No one is qualified to speak for niqab-wearing women, but on that continuum, she's a much better qualified spokesperson than you, who probably never met, spoken to or befriended a niqabi.
Total BS. It's impossible to talk to somebody who puts words into my mouth. Go away.
And take that self-righteousness and shove it. I've lived overseas and I have many Muslim friends. You're an a$$ for assuming you know anything about me or the other posters here.