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Anonymous wrote:What is incriminating about a happy photo of him at the wedding?

You’re hung up on assuming he feels betrayed and has emotional pain. Most of us are saying it’s hard to imagine that given that they jet when he was an older teenager. Never mind legal definitions- did he feel loved? Did he feel like part of the family?

They are boosters. Fame whores. Ok. He got a free education and a great pro career. The only reason he has a book to sell is because they had a book to sell. It’s not a fairytale but his life is indisputably better regardless.

Yes, but it’s 2023 and woke culture demands the white family be dragged through the mud.

I don’t know what woke culture is.

Can you not acknowledge that much/all of the Tuohy’s narrative about their history with Michael puts his “African Americanness” front and center, and portrays them as “being so brave and good for how they saved him, their adoptive son”? That is what I see, over and over. And it’s a gross, false portrayal. That falsity invites me to reflect on why they were so insistent on selling that false portrayal.

Is that woke?

Did they not help him out?

Sure but do you really think that if they were honest with the fact that they let him live with them for a few years and paid for a tutor in exchange for him going to Ole Miss that was a story that should’ve been made into a movie and would’ve supported Leigh-Ann getting five figure motivational speaking gigs as his “adoptive mom”? Like I tutored underprivileged children throughout college if one of them makes it to the NFL should they write a book about me?

Still, what they did was unusual. How many boosters are doing the same? A lot of foster parents are in it just for the money and not for altruism and loving kids. This is a naive fantasy that people need to do things only out of the goodness of their hearts and be nothing but pure gold. That's not realistic.

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Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.

He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.

He had a huge GPA problem.

Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?

Yes. They manage to get around it all the time.

I have no inside knowledge into this situation. Nor do any of you really.

But re: NCAA and grades, maybe some will work with the kids who have lower GPAs. But not all. And there is a minimum. One kid at our HS had a college coach walk out of a meeting with him after seeing his GPA and told him that was a nonstarter. THe kid was very open about that with his team.

Many football players go to community college for a year and use that GPA to go to college. It's not a big deal.

He could have done that, but he didn’t. Instead he accepted the help that was offered. Do you have any evidence that he regrets that decision?

He had full ride offers at Auburn, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana State, Alabama, and South Carolina. Clearly all those schools were cool with whatever stats he showed them.

Again, does he regret the help he was offered?

DP. He has spoken out for years about how the movie hurt his career. Also he very well might regret not going to a school that is better at football. So he does clearly regret accepting help that came with those strings attached.

How did it hurt his career? Be specific!

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe this is a cry to reunite. Seriously let’s hope they can work this out. Maybe he is feeling upset and not included and maybe he is being bratty but so do a lot of grown kids.The Tuoys said they would like to reunite and hopefully they will. I can only imagine his anger at his childhood-how many of us without threads issues are working out our own trauma.

Maybe he wanted to get his name back out there so people would buy his book? Who has been thinking about Michael Oher in the past decade? Nobody. Why do you think he had this deep emotional attachment to these people? This 37 yr old married man has a wife and kids, he's likely been busy with his own life and nuclear family barely thinking about them.

I am seriously shocked by these kinds of posts - Calling Oher “bratty” because he is taking very justified actions related to the ways that he was exploited and deceived by the Tuohys? They.used.him.and.lied.to.him. And promoted and profited from a book and a movie that made them look like spunky sweet saviors, while making him look like a dumb ignorant wastrel.

He has oceans full of pain and trauma to process. I hope that some healing comes to him from bringing light to the reality of how he was treated.

Is he your friend or something? You don't know him or his feelings. You're way too invested in this.

Go away hypocrite. We know you are paid by the liars or the liars lawyer. Who is way too invested in this?
The Tuohys are disgusting fake creeps who take advantage of people.

Sorry he's broke and looking for another hand out. Who is paying you to be here?

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Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.

He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.

He had a huge GPA problem.

Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?

Yes. They manage to get around it all the time.

I have no inside knowledge into this situation. Nor do any of you really.

But re: NCAA and grades, maybe some will work with the kids who have lower GPAs. But not all. And there is a minimum. One kid at our HS had a college coach walk out of a meeting with him after seeing his GPA and told him that was a nonstarter. THe kid was very open about that with his team.

Many football players go to community college for a year and use that GPA to go to college. It's not a big deal.

He could have done that, but he didn’t. Instead he accepted the help that was offered. Do you have any evidence that he regrets that decision?

Something isn’t help when it’s in engaged for something of value. The Touhys helped him because they wanted (1) to put the story in their friend’s book that was published less than 2 years after the “adoption” and (2) find a desirable recruit for their alma mater. Do you “help” your employer by accepting a salary for working?

NP. None of this matters. You’re discussing feelings. This is about the legal issues. People can help, and except help, for whatever reasons they want.

Of course it matters. We evaluate people and their actions and motives in life all the time, not only in a courtroom.

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Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.

He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.

He had a huge GPA problem.

Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?

Yes. They manage to get around it all the time.

I have no inside knowledge into this situation. Nor do any of you really.

But re: NCAA and grades, maybe some will work with the kids who have lower GPAs. But not all. And there is a minimum. One kid at our HS had a college coach walk out of a meeting with him after seeing his GPA and told him that was a nonstarter. THe kid was very open about that with his team.

Many football players go to community college for a year and use that GPA to go to college. It's not a big deal.

He could have done that, but he didn’t. Instead he accepted the help that was offered. Do you have any evidence that he regrets that decision?

Something isn’t help when it’s in engaged for something of value. The Touhys helped him because they wanted (1) to put the story in their friend’s book that was published less than 2 years after the “adoption” and (2) find a desirable recruit for their alma mater. Do you “help” your employer by accepting a salary for working?

NP. None of this matters. You’re discussing feelings. This is about the legal issues. People can help, and except help, for whatever reasons they want.

Using Other’s same logic, the Tuohy’s could counter sue for a portion of his NFL profits since they were instrumental in helping him achieve success. It doesn’t matter if he could have been helped elsewhere…he accepted their help. I hope they do countersue. Based on the information that came out this week about how much all parties made from the movie, they’re (the Tuohy’s( are more likely to receive damages. It’s irrelevant whether PPs like the Tuohy’s, how many black kids in foster care, etc.

According to The NY Times their charitable foundation only gave 20% of contributions received to charitable purposes so at least the Touhys are consistent.

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Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.

He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.

He had a huge GPA problem.

Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?

Yes. They manage to get around it all the time.

I have no inside knowledge into this situation. Nor do any of you really.

But re: NCAA and grades, maybe some will work with the kids who have lower GPAs. But not all. And there is a minimum. One kid at our HS had a college coach walk out of a meeting with him after seeing his GPA and told him that was a nonstarter. THe kid was very open about that with his team.

Many football players go to community college for a year and use that GPA to go to college. It's not a big deal.

He could have done that, but he didn’t. Instead he accepted the help that was offered. Do you have any evidence that he regrets that decision?

He had full ride offers at Auburn, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana State, Alabama, and South Carolina. Clearly all those schools were cool with whatever stats he showed them.

Again, does he regret the help he was offered?

DP. He has spoken out for years about how the movie hurt his career. Also he very well might regret not going to a school that is better at football. So he does clearly regret accepting help that came with those strings attached.

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Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.

He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.

He had a huge GPA problem.

Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?

Yes. They manage to get around it all the time.

I have no inside knowledge into this situation. Nor do any of you really.

But re: NCAA and grades, maybe some will work with the kids who have lower GPAs. But not all. And there is a minimum. One kid at our HS had a college coach walk out of a meeting with him after seeing his GPA and told him that was a nonstarter. THe kid was very open about that with his team.

Many football players go to community college for a year and use that GPA to go to college. It's not a big deal.

He could have done that, but he didn’t. Instead he accepted the help that was offered. Do you have any evidence that he regrets that decision?

Something isn’t help when it’s in engaged for something of value. The Touhys helped him because they wanted (1) to put the story in their friend’s book that was published less than 2 years after the “adoption” and (2) find a desirable recruit for their alma mater. Do you “help” your employer by accepting a salary for working?

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Anonymous wrote:What is incriminating about a happy photo of him at the wedding?

You’re hung up on assuming he feels betrayed and has emotional pain. Most of us are saying it’s hard to imagine that given that they jet when he was an older teenager. Never mind legal definitions- did he feel loved? Did he feel like part of the family?

They are boosters. Fame whores. Ok. He got a free education and a great pro career. The only reason he has a book to sell is because they had a book to sell. It’s not a fairytale but his life is indisputably better regardless.

Yes, but it’s 2023 and woke culture demands the white family be dragged through the mud.

I don’t know what woke culture is.

Can you not acknowledge that much/all of the Tuohy’s narrative about their history with Michael puts his “African Americanness” front and center, and portrays them as “being so brave and good for how they saved him, their adoptive son”? That is what I see, over and over. And it’s a gross, false portrayal. That falsity invites me to reflect on why they were so insistent on selling that false portrayal.

Is that woke?

Did they not help him out?

Sure but do you really think that if they were honest with the fact that they let him live with them for a few years and paid for a tutor in exchange for him going to Ole Miss that was a story that should’ve been made into a movie and would’ve supported Leigh-Ann getting five figure motivational speaking gigs as his “adoptive mom”? Like I tutored underprivileged children throughout college if one of them makes it to the NFL should they write a book about me?

Anonymous wrote:What is incriminating about a happy photo of him at the wedding?

You’re hung up on assuming he feels betrayed and has emotional pain. Most of us are saying it’s hard to imagine that given that they jet when he was an older teenager. Never mind legal definitions- did he feel loved? Did he feel like part of the family?

They are boosters. Fame whores. Ok. He got a free education and a great pro career. The only reason he has a book to sell is because they had a book to sell. It’s not a fairytale but his life is indisputably better regardless.

The Touhy’s had nothing to do with his “free education.” He was already going to the private school he met them at for free BEFORE he met them. And he went to Ole Miss on a football scholarship (which given he had the talent to play in the NFL to be paid for playing the same game seems more free-adjacent). I don’t know if you don’t know the actual story of when he met them or are being intentionally misleading.

Anonymous wrote:My boss, a white female, fostered and then adopted three young African American boys. They all had the same white mother and three different African American bio fathers. The African American boys had never experienced Christmas prior to being fostered and then adopted.

The sad thing is there are not enough African American foster and adoptive parents to take on African American children that are in very, very rough and dangerous home situations.

I believe there will be less cross cultural fostering and adopting by white families as a result of the Kapernick and Tuohy negative press and more poor African American children will be left in rough home conditions. Sadly Kapernick also disparages his white parents.

1. If you have a white parent you aren’t African American you are biracial. Typically it is easier for biracial children to find placements than fully African American children. That’s at least what I was told when my husband and I sought to adopt from foster care (we are African American and White couple and were initially seeking a biracial child because our biological children are biracial). Kaepernick is also biracial. The reality is also that many adopted children have a complicated relationship with their adoptive parents irrespective of race and there are in fact many adult adoptees that are against adoption.
2. The majority of children in foster care are White so it’s not crazy that most foster parents are also White. You’re basing a lot on knowing one person. The only White person I know who was in foster care had a very religious black couple for his foster parents. It was not a situation where his parents rights were terminated but he was with them for over a year and had no complaints about them other than they required everyone to go to church.

My boss, a white female, fostered and then adopted three young African American boys. They all had the same white mother and three different African American bio fathers. The African American boys had never experienced Christmas prior to being fostered and then adopted.

The sad thing is there are not enough African American foster and adoptive parents to take on African American children that are in very, very rough and dangerous home situations.

I believe there will be less cross cultural fostering and adopting by white families as a result of the Kapernick and Tuohy negative press and more poor African American children will be left in rough home conditions. Sadly Kapernick also disparages his white parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.

He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.

He had a huge GPA problem.

Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?

Yes. They manage to get around it all the time.

I have no inside knowledge into this situation. Nor do any of you really.

But re: NCAA and grades, maybe some will work with the kids who have lower GPAs. But not all. And there is a minimum. One kid at our HS had a college coach walk out of a meeting with him after seeing his GPA and told him that was a nonstarter. THe kid was very open about that with his team.

Many football players go to community college for a year and use that GPA to go to college. It's not a big deal.

He could have done that, but he didn’t. Instead he accepted the help that was offered. Do you have any evidence that he regrets that decision?

He had full ride offers at Auburn, Tennessee, Mississippi, Louisiana State, Alabama, and South Carolina. Clearly all those schools were cool with whatever stats he showed them.

Again, does he regret the help he was offered?

He was offered help by many people. The sad thing is he thought they cared about him. He thought they truly considered him to be family. It's really sad that he had to be faced with what they really are and how they took advantage of him.

You never talk actual facts but accuse those of us fed up with the liars of avoiding facts. So much sick projection and denial by you. You sound like a maga nut.

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Anonymous wrote:What is incriminating about a happy photo of him at the wedding?

You’re hung up on assuming he feels betrayed and has emotional pain. Most of us are saying it’s hard to imagine that given that they jet when he was an older teenager. Never mind legal definitions- did he feel loved? Did he feel like part of the family?

They are boosters. Fame whores. Ok. He got a free education and a great pro career. The only reason he has a book to sell is because they had a book to sell. It’s not a fairytale but his life is indisputably better regardless.

Yes, but it’s 2023 and woke culture demands the white family be dragged through the mud.

You're sick.

They wouldn't be dragged through the mud if they weren't liars who lie constantly. They are horrible people. Their actions have turned their name to mud. Don't blame anyone else.