Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:18     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:The crane idea was mentioned yesterday on NPR by some expert. I can't remember who he was, but they were consulting him on the story. It's not ridiculous.

Training dolphins is...


Done in the Navy, so why not?

https://www.niwcpacific.navy.mil/marine-mammal-program/
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:17     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Lost submersible
Bobbing in the waves, to be
Rescued by dolphins


Thank you, haiku writer!
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:15     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
The crane idea was mentioned yesterday on NPR by some expert. I can't remember who he was, but they were consulting him on the story. It's not ridiculous.

Training dolphins is...
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:14     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
David Pogue recounts his trip from Good Morning America

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/06/20/david-pogue-titanic-submarine-video-cbs/70340223007/
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:11     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
so maybe the crane idea isn't so far fetched. they're trying to deploy a deep sea robot that could potentially carry a chain to attach to the sub if it finds it and then a robot would be pulled up together w/the sub by a chain attached to a ship.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:08     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
projections that oxygen will run out early Thursday morning
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:07     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
truly a once in a lifetime experience
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:02     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m angry that hundreds of millions of people are being potentially traumatized by this awful incident as the world watches them die via 24/7 media coverage.

I’m angry about the massive waste of resources from the common wealth that is being expended on this pointless effort to rescue incredibly foolhardy billionaires and con artists. It’s way beyond the value of 5 individual lives and the fact that it is being done is just another manifestation of human frailty and more hubris.

I’ll be glad when this story is gone from the front pages of everything. Hopefully by the weekend. May the adventurers RIP.


+1000


Well said!
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:02     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:from what I can read we have:

-No safety redundancy
-No safety training for submarine problems
-No systems redundancy
-No backups for tracking
-No "Deadman's switch" that would surface the craft if something went wrong
-No way to track the vessel if the first system failed
-No way of testing hull integrity prior to each dive
-No way of knowing the number of dives each hull can take before it becomes unsafe to operate

It was a failure waiting to happen

I hope the crew is found and can be brought home alive. Can't imagine what their families are going through.


At those depths, none of those things are of any use.


Disagree, are ways to mitigate the risk more. The idea is that these safety checks are completed BEFORE the dives. See reasons for being sued.

Nothing they can do now.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 16:59     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
All I have to say is that this thread has kept me entertained throughout this dreary rainy day. The orcas and their little net idea is a winner.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 16:59     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Lost submersible
Bobbing in the waves, to be
Rescued by dolphins
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 16:58     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m angry that hundreds of millions of people are being potentially traumatized by this awful incident as the world watches them die via 24/7 media coverage.

I’m angry about the massive waste of resources from the common wealth that is being expended on this pointless effort to rescue incredibly foolhardy billionaires and con artists. It’s way beyond the value of 5 individual lives and the fact that it is being done is just another manifestation of human frailty and more hubris.

I’ll be glad when this story is gone from the front pages of everything. Hopefully by the weekend. May the adventurers RIP.


Wow, whoever wrote all of this sounds like a very, miserable human being.
To have such a blatant disregard for human life is disgusting.

You are so judgmental > it sounds like you think these five people all deserve to die somehow just because they made the decision to explore the Titanic.

And the fact that these people have large bank accounts does not mean they deserve to die a brutal death.

Have some empathy. 🖤


Not the PP but they don’t deserve to die but they don’t deserve all these resources being spent to save them. People who have all the intelligence, money and power and foolishly and willingly put themselves and now others in great peril for an unnecessary vanity experience while there are literal children who don’t have a roof over their head tonight or food in their belly or medicine. They aren’t victims, this isn’t an accident. They chose this, unlike the kid dying from malaria right now, unlike the American who can’t afford their insulin, unlike the kids stuck with violent, crappy schools. This is not a good use of public resources and money (if we are indeed paying for it). No sympathy, no empathy. You get in the tiger cage, sometimes she’s gonna eat you.


No different that dumdums that don’t evacuate in a hurricane and need rescuing. We still help them.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 16:57     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m angry that hundreds of millions of people are being potentially traumatized by this awful incident as the world watches them die via 24/7 media coverage.

I’m angry about the massive waste of resources from the common wealth that is being expended on this pointless effort to rescue incredibly foolhardy billionaires and con artists. It’s way beyond the value of 5 individual lives and the fact that it is being done is just another manifestation of human frailty and more hubris.

I’ll be glad when this story is gone from the front pages of everything. Hopefully by the weekend. May the adventurers RIP.


Wow, whoever wrote all of this sounds like a very, miserable human being.
To have such a blatant disregard for human life is disgusting.

You are so judgmental > it sounds like you think these five people all deserve to die somehow just because they made the decision to explore the Titanic.

And the fact that these people have large bank accounts does not mean they deserve to die a brutal death.

Have some empathy. 🖤


DP. That poster has plenty of regard for human life. The person without it was the con artist running this tourist boat.

When people use vast sums of money available to them to buy or do something that is this obviously a dumb idea, there are inevitably going to be criticisms about that.

Throwing out a cloud of obscurantist squid ink about empathy at a time when the bad guys in the story are running around demanding the full resources of the US government dedicated to fixing their nonsense is not a good faith argument.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 16:57     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m angry that hundreds of millions of people are being potentially traumatized by this awful incident as the world watches them die via 24/7 media coverage.

I’m angry about the massive waste of resources from the common wealth that is being expended on this pointless effort to rescue incredibly foolhardy billionaires and con artists. It’s way beyond the value of 5 individual lives and the fact that it is being done is just another manifestation of human frailty and more hubris.

I’ll be glad when this story is gone from the front pages of everything. Hopefully by the weekend. May the adventurers RIP.


Who is being traumatized by this? It’s not happening to hundreds of millions of people.


+1. No one is traumatized aside from the families. More curiosity into the sheer stupidity of these people.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 16:56     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m angry that hundreds of millions of people are being potentially traumatized by this awful incident as the world watches them die via 24/7 media coverage.

I’m angry about the massive waste of resources from the common wealth that is being expended on this pointless effort to rescue incredibly foolhardy billionaires and con artists. It’s way beyond the value of 5 individual lives and the fact that it is being done is just another manifestation of human frailty and more hubris.

I’ll be glad when this story is gone from the front pages of everything. Hopefully by the weekend. May the adventurers RIP.


Wow, whoever wrote all of this sounds like a very, miserable human being.
To have such a blatant disregard for human life is disgusting.

You are so judgmental > it sounds like you think these five people all deserve to die somehow just because they made the decision to explore the Titanic.

And the fact that these people have large bank accounts does not mean they deserve to die a brutal death.

Have some empathy. 🖤


Not the PP but they don’t deserve to die but they don’t deserve all these resources being spent to save them. People who have all the intelligence, money and power and foolishly and willingly put themselves and now others in great peril for an unnecessary vanity experience while there are literal children who don’t have a roof over their head tonight or food in their belly or medicine. They aren’t victims, this isn’t an accident. They chose this, unlike the kid dying from malaria right now, unlike the American who can’t afford their insulin, unlike the kids stuck with violent, crappy schools. This is not a good use of public resources and money (if we are indeed paying for it). No sympathy, no empathy. You get in the tiger cage, sometimes she’s gonna eat you.