Anonymous
02/23/2022 20:50
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Honestly, why do we care? It's not like the Ukraine is a major economic force. They don't have oil or a large manufacturing base. I'm not sure why it would be in the US's interest to get involved.
I could probably make a good argument for NATO and/or UN involvment, but I'm not sure why the US would want to get involved on its own. Feel free to convince me otherwise.
Why should there be any world order at all? What happened when the world turned a blind eye to the Japanese Empire expanding in the Pacific? What happened when the world turned a blind eye to Germany invading Poland? The whole reason world order and laws exist is to prevent yet another world war that will kill 200+ million people. Unfortunately, many countries bout there cannot get out of their expansionist mindset and learn nothing from history.
I disagree a bit. Both the British Empire and France declared war on Germany once it invaded Poland. Hardly a blind eye. As for the Japanese expansion, we decided in 1938 to cut off raw materials their war machine needed to build empire, in effect economically sanctioning them. This is one of the main causes of the Pearl Harbor attack.
As for world order, it exists not prevent war per se but to benefit those who write the order’s rules. We wrote the rules so we did pretty much what we wanted to include invading countries on a whim to being the world’s global reserve currency. The Socialists and Communists backed by the USSR were offering a different set of rules so we opposed them and made them extinct (mostly). Then it was global jihad and non-state actors that were offering an alternative to our rules. We mostly beat them. Now it’s both the Russians and Chinese who are offering a new set of rules that are the threat. The Russians are a military threat and the Chinese are an economic threat. What to call their vision? Don’t know.
Thank you for writing this - I have nothing to add but that makes a lot of sense!
Anonymous
02/23/2022 20:42
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Honestly, why do we care? It's not like the Ukraine is a major economic force. They don't have oil or a large manufacturing base. I'm not sure why it would be in the US's interest to get involved.
I could probably make a good argument for NATO and/or UN involvment, but I'm not sure why the US would want to get involved on its own. Feel free to convince me otherwise.
Why should there be any world order at all? What happened when the world turned a blind eye to the Japanese Empire expanding in the Pacific? What happened when the world turned a blind eye to Germany invading Poland? The whole reason world order and laws exist is to prevent yet another world war that will kill 200+ million people. Unfortunately, many countries bout there cannot get out of their expansionist mindset and learn nothing from history.
I disagree a bit. Both the British Empire and France declared war on Germany once it invaded Poland. Hardly a blind eye. As for the Japanese expansion, we decided in 1938 to cut off raw materials their war machine needed to build empire, in effect economically sanctioning them. This is one of the main causes of the Pearl Harbor attack.
As for world order, it exists not prevent war per se but to benefit those who write the order’s rules. We wrote the rules so we did pretty much what we wanted to include invading countries on a whim to being the world’s global reserve currency. The Socialists and Communists backed by the USSR were offering a different set of rules so we opposed them and made them extinct (mostly). Then it was global jihad and non-state actors that were offering an alternative to our rules. We mostly beat them. Now it’s both the Russians and Chinese who are offering a new set of rules that are the threat. The Russians are a military threat and the Chinese are an economic threat. What to call their vision? Don’t know.
Anonymous
02/23/2022 20:40
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
“The javelins must be maintained in pristine condition.”
“Please get me a cash price on that Sunny isles condo”
“Please get me a cash price on that Sunny isles condo”
Anonymous
02/23/2022 20:39
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Let’s guess how many of those expensive tank missiles will be fired at Russian tanks and how many will be sold out the back door….
I am going to say that not a single one will be used in combat (by ukrainians)….
Hell they are so valuable I bet the generals are keeping them for safe keeping lest some hot headed soldier actually “spend” one.
I am going to say that not a single one will be used in combat (by ukrainians)….
Hell they are so valuable I bet the generals are keeping them for safe keeping lest some hot headed soldier actually “spend” one.
Anonymous
02/23/2022 20:19
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Putin isn’t great but strategists and theorists will be studying and writing about how he masterfully positioned Russia from 2008-2022 in terms of defense modernization and bolstering foreign reserves.
He skillfully navigated hard times to fortify thr Russian state.
Now they are ready to assert themselves
He’s not going to look so smart when Russia is bogged down in a long guerrilla war.
The U.S. is very good at doing those.
And it’s been a drain on the US. But Russia is a poor and backward country so the effect will be much worse.
Anonymous
02/23/2022 20:15
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Putin isn’t great but strategists and theorists will be studying and writing about how he masterfully positioned Russia from 2008-2022 in terms of defense modernization and bolstering foreign reserves.
He skillfully navigated hard times to fortify thr Russian state.
Now they are ready to assert themselves
He’s not going to look so smart when Russia is bogged down in a long guerrilla war.
The U.S. is very good at doing those.
Anonymous
02/23/2022 20:14
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
We must send our boys to fight!
Who will bring home the separatists’ helmets?
Who will bring home the separatists’ helmets?
Anonymous
02/23/2022 20:03
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Putin isn’t great but strategists and theorists will be studying and writing about how he masterfully positioned Russia from 2008-2022 in terms of defense modernization and bolstering foreign reserves.
He skillfully navigated hard times to fortify thr Russian state.
Now they are ready to assert themselves
He’s not going to look so smart when Russia is bogged down in a long guerrilla war.
Anonymous
02/23/2022 19:59
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Putin isn’t great but strategists and theorists will be studying and writing about how he masterfully positioned Russia from 2008-2022 in terms of defense modernization and bolstering foreign reserves.
He skillfully navigated hard times to fortify thr Russian state.
Now they are ready to assert themselves
Russia is in worse shape in almost every way than it was before Putin. He and his oligarch friends have looted the country for nothing.
Anonymous
02/23/2022 19:42
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems like another civil war we should not be involved in.
A war between two sovereign nations is not a civil war. Stop with the Russian propaganda.
BS another failure from the senile mumbling buffon
American do not care about Ukraine!
https://thehill.com/policy/international/595592-most-americans-oppose-major-role-in-russia-ukraine-conflict
Anonymous
02/23/2022 19:20
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Seems like another civil war we should not be involved in.
Ok Comrade
Anonymous
02/23/2022 19:20
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Seems like another civil war we should not be involved in.
A war between two sovereign nations is not a civil war. Stop with the Russian propaganda.
Anonymous
02/23/2022 19:09
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Putin isn’t great but strategists and theorists will be studying and writing about how he masterfully positioned Russia from 2008-2022 in terms of defense modernization and bolstering foreign reserves.
He skillfully navigated hard times to fortify thr Russian state.
Now they are ready to assert themselves
He skillfully navigated hard times to fortify thr Russian state.
Now they are ready to assert themselves
Anonymous
02/23/2022 18:44
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Seems like another civil war we should not be involved in.
Are you just previewing Tucker's argument tonight?