None of these kids are taking care of OP when she’s old.

This is weird OP. A lot of people are married and having kids by 27. The best way to encourage a move out is help your step kid find a job and be more independent.

Do they not have savings from their prior work? How long is it going to take them to find another job? You mentioned they failed at the job rodeo but surely they have to do something with their time all day?

What are their 3-5-10 year plans personally and professionally?

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Anonymous wrote:Step parents are evil.

Both my biological sister and I moved in with our mom and step father at different points in our 20s. He welcomed us like his own children. Some step parents are great.

The op of this thread though, not so much.

It works better when it's a mom and stepfather because women often carry the burden of running a household. If you bring in an adult kid whom the woman has no authority to 'parent' and whose father is unwilling to 'parent', then you have a situation that will fail 98/100 times. Meaning, all the extra housework, cooking, cleaning, parking issues (see other thread about the emergency physican whose adult stepkid blocks her in the driveway and she sometimes needs to make hospital runs in the middle of the night) become issues because (i) dad is unwilling to set rules and (ii) his wife has no authority to set rules in her own house.

Also, in a nuclear family with an adult child, you may have 30 years of goodwill and shared priorities around your adult children and grandchildren. In a second marriage, you may only have a few years of history, and they may have been fraught with conflicts like this one. So, a 27-year-old moving home might be enough to trigger a divorce. But a divorce isn't necessarily a bad thing - sometimes it clears the way for more peace for all parties. More often than not, the women I know who remarried would be better off single. Marriage is generally a bad deal for women, but the issues are amplified later in life when there's almost no upside to a second marriage for women.

Anonymous wrote:Step parents are evil.

Both my biological sister and I moved in with our mom and step father at different points in our 20s. He welcomed us like his own children. Some step parents are great.

The op of this thread though, not so much.

Anonymous wrote:You support your husband unless you want to be single...

Moving back requires an emergency situation.

Also there would be a contract with nominal rent & utilities, chores/ obligations, and a move out deadline of 6 months max.

He’d have to pay any and all other bills- smart phone, car or Ubers, healthcare, etc.

Step parents are evil.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you need to intervene very hard. The longer the unemployment lasts, the more your stepchild will fall behind and the more harmful it will be for their prospects in life. What will happen when you and your DH are gone? The time to intervene is now. Push for therapy, diagnosis, chores, part-time job, anything other than moping about the house and doing nothing.

Do you think your daughter wants this life for you long-term, catering to a FTL adult all of your days until you're too old to do it anymore? Do you think your daughter wants this unhappy situation hanging over every visit and ever stage of your remaining life? This is one of the things that sucks about having a stepfamily-- the burden it places on others. I hate seeing my parents struggle with their stepchildren, it's so sad.

These are all valid points. If it looks like you’re going to have a long-term unemployed, middle-aged, adult stepson living with you indefinitely, it might be time to cut your losses. OP, now would be a good time to divorce and split marital assets before your adult stepson drains them.

If this were your daughter you would feel differently. My kids are always welcome to live with me if needed. I would be happy to live with them indefinitely if they need to.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t let my 27 year old child move back home let alone a 27 year old STEP child. Stop shaming OP.

This. 27 is too old for any adult child to move home. It's probably the beginning or continuation of a long-term codependency.

I think it depends on the circumstances. A generally responsible, hard-working kid who got caught up in a layoff, is burning through their emergency savings, and is having a tough time in this economy? Absolutely, I’d be a safety net as they keep job searching. A kid who finds themself in a bad marriage and needs a place to land while assets are split and they save for a new place to live? Yep, again, I’d be here with open arms. Wanting to live at home for a year or two to save up for an downpayment? Sounds great to me. Or, a devastating medical diagnosis like cancer would have me welcoming them back.

A grown adult who thinks they are going to play video games all day, not help around the house, and not need to find a job will need a loving “no.”

We have no idea what the real story is about OP’s stepchild. But if they’re a gamer who doesn’t want to get a job, then I don’t blame her for not wanting an endless roommate.

It also depends on OP’s relationship with her stepson and her husband. Many second marriages are holding on by a thread and moving in an unwanted 27 year old stepkid would break them, especially if it’s the husband’s kid and the husband is weak but OP has no jurisdiction. No one wants to feel powerless in their own home. OP is too old to waste time living like that.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t let my 27 year old child move back home let alone a 27 year old STEP child. Stop shaming OP.

This. 27 is too old for any adult child to move home. It's probably the beginning or continuation of a long-term codependency.

I think it depends on the circumstances. A generally responsible, hard-working kid who got caught up in a layoff, is burning through their emergency savings, and is having a tough time in this economy? Absolutely, I’d be a safety net as they keep job searching. A kid who finds themself in a bad marriage and needs a place to land while assets are split and they save for a new place to live? Yep, again, I’d be here with open arms. Wanting to live at home for a year or two to save up for an downpayment? Sounds great to me. Or, a devastating medical diagnosis like cancer would have me welcoming them back.

A grown adult who thinks they are going to play video games all day, not help around the house, and not need to find a job will need a loving “no.”

We have no idea what the real story is about OP’s stepchild. But if they’re a gamer who doesn’t want to get a job, then I don’t blame her for not wanting an endless roommate.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t let my 27 year old child move back home let alone a 27 year old STEP child. Stop shaming OP.

This. 27 is too old for any adult child to move home. It's probably the beginning or continuation of a long-term codependency.

I think it depends on the circumstances. A generally responsible, hard-working kid who got caught up in a layoff, is burning through their emergency savings, and is having a tough time in this economy? Absolutely, I’d be a safety net as they keep job searching. A kid who finds themself in a bad marriage and needs a place to land while assets are split and they save for a new place to live? Yep, again, I’d be here with open arms. Wanting to live at home for a year or two to save up for an downpayment? Sounds great to me. Or, a devastating medical diagnosis like cancer would have me welcoming them back.

A grown adult who thinks they are going to play video games all day, not help around the house, and not need to find a job will need a loving “no.”

We have no idea what the real story is about OP’s stepchild. But if they’re a gamer who doesn’t want to get a job, then I don’t blame her for not wanting an endless roommate.

You support your husband unless you want to be single...

Anonymous wrote:The OP is so negatively framed it is as if OP came on looking for a fight, not advice.

OP’s total lack of anything positive to say about her stepchild indicates she is not looking for advice or finding a compromise, she just wants to find some to agree she is right.

My suggestion is for OP to support her DH in providing financial support without having the stepchild move in, this financial support should be in combination with a realistic plan that the father and child can work out. I cannot think of anything that could be more toxic and push a struggling young person into depression more than having to live with the controlling piece of work that OP appears to be.

Tell that to the 27 year old man baby who doesn’t work, doesn’t have a spouse or kids, does nothing with their life all day yet wants to move back in so they can continue living life as a child.

For most 27 year olds that would be depressing but for the man baby, it’s his ideal lifestyle.

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Anonymous wrote:What is your husband asking the "child" to do here? Work at a job for a certain period of time? Save a certain amount of money?

What do you want the "child" to do? Move out immediately? Move out in a certain timeframe?

What does the "child" want in this situation? I can't imagine that "live with my dad and my obviously hostile stepmom" is what this young adult wants out of life.

OP here. You’d think that, but step-DC hasn’t indicated anything differently. It’s so strange, I don’t understand at all.

What are you willing to do about it?

OP here. Well, seeing as I’m apparently not qualified to take issue with my stepchild moving back in, I’m not sure what exactly I’d be qualified to do about it.

Deal or Divorce Ma’am

You have a husband and step son problem.
Yikes!

Anonymous wrote:Are you sure you're fine? You don't sound like a very nice human to be around, sorry.

Agreed.