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In general my takeaway from this data would be that the gap between TT/2T/3T is small enough that it can very easily be explained by who applies rather than any secret formula on the school's side; it's not at all hard to imagine that the difference between the percentage of Trinity's class that are rich/famous/connected and the percentage of UNIS' that is is greater than 14%.

So would you say at least within TT there is no reason at all to choose between, say Trinity/Brearley and Horace Mann based on exmissions, even if the latter looks a bit weaker, b/c legacies make the numbers fuzzy, and fit trumps whatever difference remains?

Anonymous wrote:does this person site their sources? I can't find it. I hope they're not just going by the Insta posts

The percentages look right-ish for me for the schools we looked into, but I could easily imagine that the few places that don't actually share detailed data are getting better numbers than they deserve due to relying on Instagram. Also "Ivy+" is a weird category because it means that your HYP matriculations are buried beneath a sea of Cornell/Penn ones.

In general my takeaway from this data would be that the gap between TT/2T/3T is small enough that it can very easily be explained by who applies rather than any secret formula on the school's side; it's not at all hard to imagine that the difference between the percentage of Trinity's class that are rich/famous/connected and the percentage of UNIS' that is is greater than 14%.

Anonymous wrote:Here's a recent analysis of top placements from NYC privates (don't know how accurate):

https://school.chicardgo.com/nycprivate/blog/

does this person site their sources? I can't find it. I hope they're not just going by the Insta posts

Here's a recent analysis of top placements from NYC privates (don't know how accurate):

https://school.chicardgo.com/nycprivate/blog/

The word "placement" is ill used here. Students decide whehre they wnat apply, colleges decide who htey wnat to take, and studnetd deice among hte offers they get based ona all kids of decisions.

High schools are not "placing" students in colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I stand corrected, Fieldston updated their page with an actual list now. Trinity's just a map with dots and no numbers next to the dots.

Yeah, Trinity is the only TT that doesn't do give you any numbers, just the schools kids to which kids matriculated (not sure why). Most give you the list for the past 3-5 years, though some like HM and Spence don't give the full list, just destinations with most students attending:

https://www.dalton.org/learning/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.trinityschoolnyc.org/our-programs/college-counseling/matriculation
https://www.brearley.org/college-advising/
https://www.chapin.edu/academics/upper-school/college-guidance/college-matriculation-list
https://www.spenceschool.org/academic-program/college-counseling
https://www.collegiateschool.org/academics/college-guidance

Spence gives the comprehensive 5 year list. You just need to scroll dow.

Yeah, I just missed it. Its my first day on the internet lol

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I stand corrected, Fieldston updated their page with an actual list now. Trinity's just a map with dots and no numbers next to the dots.

Yeah, Trinity is the only TT that doesn't do give you any numbers, just the schools kids to which kids matriculated (not sure why). Most give you the list for the past 3-5 years, though some like HM and Spence don't give the full list, just destinations with most students attending:

https://www.dalton.org/learning/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.trinityschoolnyc.org/our-programs/college-counseling/matriculation
https://www.brearley.org/college-advising/
https://www.chapin.edu/academics/upper-school/college-guidance/college-matriculation-list
https://www.spenceschool.org/academic-program/college-counseling
https://www.collegiateschool.org/academics/college-guidance

Spence gives the comprehensive 5 year list. You just need to scroll dow.

Anonymous wrote:Does Brearley have an Insta this year?

Also doesn't look like Dalton or Packer are posting.

Last year the three started posting in the spring.

Spence gives the full list - the college counseling page has got a link to "Comprehensive Five-Year Matriculation List".

Trinity has never given full details. They may be thinking that "people will apply to them anyway" but I personally view it as complacency on their side. At the same time, Trinity will never care about opinions of individual parents so it is what it is...

Anonymous wrote:Actually I stand corrected, Fieldston updated their page with an actual list now. Trinity's just a map with dots and no numbers next to the dots.

Yeah, Trinity is the only TT that doesn't do give you any numbers, just the schools kids to which kids matriculated (not sure why). Most give you the list for the past 3-5 years, though some like HM and Spence don't give the full list, just destinations with most students attending:

https://www.dalton.org/learning/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.trinityschoolnyc.org/our-programs/college-counseling/matriculation
https://www.brearley.org/college-advising/
https://www.chapin.edu/academics/upper-school/college-guidance/college-matriculation-list
https://www.spenceschool.org/academic-program/college-counseling
https://www.collegiateschool.org/academics/college-guidance

Does Brearley have an Insta this year?

Also doesn't look like Dalton or Packer are posting.

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Anonymous wrote:Hunter matriculations from last year look pretty good, 8 to Harvard, 4 to Princeton, lots of other great schools. It's only slightly larger than HM and I am assuming far fewer legacies.
https://www.instagram.com/hawkscommit25/

I wonder if most of these kids with these kinds of exmissions are the ones that enter at 7th grade

My kid is in that insta . And no, with one or two exceptions, the kids who enter at K are unimpressive.

Actually I stand corrected, Fieldston updated their page with an actual list now. Trinity's just a map with dots and no numbers next to the dots.

Anonymous wrote:look on the school profile for accurate reporting

That's frequently obscured; either they just give you a list of colleges without counts like Trinity or they give you a list of colleges within the last 5 years with symbols for 5+ or 10+ students like Fieldston.

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Anonymous wrote:I see other schools posting on instagram this year except Brearley.

Neither has Dalton. Both schools post in the spring if you look at last year’s accounts.

HM doesn’t even allow these accounts. HM’s college placements have gone down the drain - I remember they used to do crazy well and their placements at ivies basically tanked which caused an uproar.

A few years ago they sent a ridiculous number of kids to Chicago. Which is a very good school. But it just seemed odd. If you thought you were getting Ivy and you got Chicago you probably aren't thrilled. If it is second tier kids getting Chicago then it is much more OK.

HM has an account - it just doesn’t have any references to the school. 11/62 posted so far are going to Chicago. I think that’s great, but I’m not Ivy or bust.

Chicago is a great school but not sure if I would want to be going to college with that many HS classmates - it is not that big of a place. It is a bit odd how many kids they are sending there. Obviously, it's not like they are sending all these kids to an awful school, but just odd. Obviously if this was Harvard or Yale I would feel slightly differently.

What is the account?

https://www.instagram.com/maroonlions26/

^^^and FWIW, it's student run and not complete. I know it's missing a Princeton, a Yale, and another Williams admit at the least.

Looks like a bit less than half of the graduating class posted, and we could probably assume that the other half is not materially stronger. So -- am I reading this wrong, or does this look meaningfully weaker than average for e.g. Brearley/Spence for the very top colleges? One Stanford, no HYP listed, no MIT?

look on the school profile for accurate reporting