Anonymous wrote:I'm really disappointed. There's no way she didn't know who he was. Do I think she is a pedo? No. But she loved his attention, she loved his gifts. She turned a blind eye to who he was. He was buying her spa days at Four Seasons and designer bags.

It just goes to show that you can have a fancy degree, fancy jobs and still be a complete, pathetic loser. I hope she never lives this down and it mars her reputation.

Anonymous wrote:I'm really disappointed. There's no way she didn't know who he was. Do I think she is a pedo? No. But she loved his attention, she loved his gifts. She turned a blind eye to who he was. He was buying her spa days at Four Seasons and designer bags.

It just goes to show that you can have a fancy degree, fancy jobs and still be a complete, pathetic loser. I hope she never lives this down and it mars her reputation.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Some real all-or-nothing thinking I’m this thread. Yes, every person with power (White House, etc) will face some moral compromises and interact with some shady people.

Not everyone will accepts gifts from and cozy up to pedophiles. Which is why there are plenty of elites and billionaires who do not appear in these files.

Agree with a PP that saying “everyone does it” (when the “it” is being literal besties with a notorious pedophile) is itself a form of enabling.

Another one with conceptual thinking deficits. The principle you should have distilled isn't "everyone does it." Rather, it's to understand that the system of power we have is extremely corrupt and you must stop stupidly putting faith in the cover stories and mythologies with which these people explain their rise and cover their tracks. We, the People, cannot perform our watchdog function and hold power to count when we are so credulous. An investigation of EVERYONE in key positions throughout every administration in which Epstein operated is the least we should be demanding here. In a different country of people who hadn't internalized the falsehood that the powerful are heroes to be idolized, a government-wide investigation, along with investigation of private actors who were utilizing the revolving door throughout, would be already underway.

You're not doing anything special sitting around knowing that a literal cabal of pedophiles operated in this country for decades and then waiting for random unredacted names to leak so you can gasp and virtue signal with how shocked you are.

Respectfully, I think you think I’m more naive than I am. And somehow that you uniquely in this thread have the proverbial eyes to see.

But there are a lot of elite names that do not appear in these files. And obviously there are plenty that do. This thread is about the difference between those two categories of elites.

Anonymous wrote:Everybody at top is in there. That's who he was. A networker.

Anonymous wrote:How is this lady still at Goldman? And why on earth have someone else pay for your medspa crap when you make plenty of money? I don't understand these losers.

Anonymous wrote:Simple. Many people did not actually consider what Epstein did to be a crime, because they think the girls (even as young as 14) consented to it for money and enjoyed it. Hard to swallow but there it is. This was seen as naughtiness on Epstein’s part but not actually a sex crime. Underlying that view is obviously contempt towards young women and a “boys will be boys” excuse towards men. Rich men have appetites they sate with money and Epstein’s appetite for young girls was seen as morally no different from an appetite for any other luxury item.

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Anonymous wrote:When will she be fired???

She's sort of suprising to be in the position she has as Chief Counsel. Univ Washington undergrad. Georgetown Law. These are not the best legal credentials. So they just wanted her there for her connections and personality?

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Anonymous wrote:Not to just pick on her: how could ruemmler not know what he did? She was WH counsel after Epstein had his conviction. So she knew. Like the Clintons knew - and yet had Maxwell attend Chelsea’s highly publicized wedding after Epsteins 2009 conviction.

I don’t see how Paul Weiss, Goldman Sachs, or any other firms can retain people who associated with him and showed up in these files. We can see so far that there is no business really in these files no magical special genius tax advice flowing from Epstein to a lucky few. This was all about fun and favors knowing he was a convicted sex offender.

You think Goldman Sachs has non vile people? They are evil incorporated.

Don’t pick at me. There’s a difference between “mega finance place” and “our GC was close with Epstein and was contemptuous of regular people.” There’s a difference between “hot shot litigators” and “get my kid in a Woody project after your sex offense thing.”

Well apparently there isn’t any such difference which we can obviously all see with our own eyes. Wake up!

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Anonymous wrote:Not to just pick on her: how could ruemmler not know what he did? She was WH counsel after Epstein had his conviction. So she knew. Like the Clintons knew - and yet had Maxwell attend Chelsea’s highly publicized wedding after Epsteins 2009 conviction.

I don’t see how Paul Weiss, Goldman Sachs, or any other firms can retain people who associated with him and showed up in these files. We can see so far that there is no business really in these files no magical special genius tax advice flowing from Epstein to a lucky few. This was all about fun and favors knowing he was a convicted sex offender.

You think Goldman Sachs has non vile people? They are evil incorporated.

Don’t pick at me. There’s a difference between “mega finance place” and “our GC was close with Epstein and was contemptuous of regular people.” There’s a difference between “hot shot litigators” and “get my kid in a Woody project after your sex offense thing.”

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that's troubling me is when and how did she meet Epstein?

The released emails start in the summer of 2014, very soon after she left the White House, and are already chummy. Which implies that they already knew each other.

That fall is when Holder resigned. At some point she withdrew her name from AG consideration supposedly because confirmation would have been difficult. Did someobody know about the Epstein connection then?

She had an affair with Epstein’s lawyer, so that person likely made the into.

The timeline doesn't match up. She started the affair after she was already chummy with Epstein.

Why would you think that?