Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This list is likely to get people killed (either directly or via swatting, etc.). I’m no fan of ICE’s current actions, but firmly believe that it’s irresponsible and morally wrong to distribute.
That’s nonsensical.
Except for a very small subset in intelligence roles, the names of federal employees is widely accessible. As it should be. Federal employees work on behalf of the American people and are accountable to them.
ICE personnel are federal employees.
In sensitive security-related roles. They’re more akin to FBI agents than to Interior, for example, and therefore ought be afforded the same protections.
Moreover, there’s a clear risk here. See Luigi, Kirk, Dallas ICE shooting, etc., etc. No doubt that this disclosure will endanger people’s lives.
Not only ICE and their families, but anyone ICE perceives as a threat—as you may have noticed, ICE is not known for its restraint.
It’s stupid, dangerous and wrong.
Your opinion is noted.
More whistleblowing and disclosures will be forthcoming, I’m sure.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This list is likely to get people killed (either directly or via swatting, etc.). I’m no fan of ICE’s current actions, but firmly believe that it’s irresponsible and morally wrong to distribute.
This is 100% on the Trump administration.
Nope. ICE’s actions are 100% on the Trump administration.
If people get killed as the result of this list, that’s on people who distribute the list.
Anonymous wrote:This list is likely to get people killed (either directly or via swatting, etc.). I’m no fan of ICE’s current actions, but firmly believe that it’s irresponsible and morally wrong to distribute.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This list is likely to get people killed (either directly or via swatting, etc.). I’m no fan of ICE’s current actions, but firmly believe that it’s irresponsible and morally wrong to distribute.
That’s nonsensical.
Except for a very small subset in intelligence roles, the names of federal employees is widely accessible. As it should be. Federal employees work on behalf of the American people and are accountable to them.
ICE personnel are federal employees.
In sensitive security-related roles. They’re more akin to FBI agents than to Interior, for example, and therefore ought be afforded the same protections.
Moreover, there’s a clear risk here. See Luigi, Kirk, Dallas ICE shooting, etc., etc. No doubt that this disclosure will endanger people’s lives.
Not only ICE and their families, but anyone ICE perceives as a threat—as you may have noticed, ICE is not known for its restraint.
It’s stupid, dangerous and wrong.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This list is likely to get people killed (either directly or via swatting, etc.). I’m no fan of ICE’s current actions, but firmly believe that it’s irresponsible and morally wrong to distribute.
That’s nonsensical.
Except for a very small subset in intelligence roles, the names of federal employees is widely accessible. As it should be. Federal employees work on behalf of the American people and are accountable to them.
ICE personnel are federal employees.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why? Maybe this will prompt ice members to think twice about killing abducting and beating up other human beings
I think the government should prepare a publicly searchable database of all non-authorized immigrants, with entry points, time in country, removals, charges, known family, jobs, addresses, use of services, among other elements.
I don't actually believe this should be done, but if we are putting one group at risk, let's put all groups at risk. That's what the Internet is for, right?
But you’re starting out with a false premise. ICE was never “at risk” before they started rampaging through American cities masked and waving around their guns. Now ICE has escalated exponentially in Minneapolis with extrajudicially executing a U.S. citizen and all the other BS ripping people out of cars and beating people up. This problem started at the beginning of Trump’s second term when Miller wasn’t getting the numbers he wanted.
Of course, the government should know who is entering the country and for the most part it does. The overstay and illegal work issue wouldn’t be a problem if we did e-verify. But somehow no one who complains about immigration ever wants to do that.
And finally civilians have privacy rights that federal employees do not.
Federal employees don't have privacy rights? Are you on drugs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why? Maybe this will prompt ice members to think twice about killing abducting and beating up other human beings
I think the government should prepare a publicly searchable database of all non-authorized immigrants, with entry points, time in country, removals, charges, known family, jobs, addresses, use of services, among other elements.
I don't actually believe this should be done, but if we are putting one group at risk, let's put all groups at risk. That's what the Internet is for, right?
But you’re starting out with a false premise. ICE was never “at risk” before they started rampaging through American cities masked and waving around their guns. Now ICE has escalated exponentially in Minneapolis with extrajudicially executing a U.S. citizen and all the other BS ripping people out of cars and beating people up. This problem started at the beginning of Trump’s second term when Miller wasn’t getting the numbers he wanted.
Of course, the government should know who is entering the country and for the most part it does. The overstay and illegal work issue wouldn’t be a problem if we did e-verify. But somehow no one who complains about immigration ever wants to do that.
And finally civilians have privacy rights that federal employees do not.
Federal employees don't have privacy rights? Are you on drugs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why? Maybe this will prompt ice members to think twice about killing abducting and beating up other human beings
I think the government should prepare a publicly searchable database of all non-authorized immigrants, with entry points, time in country, removals, charges, known family, jobs, addresses, use of services, among other elements.
I don't actually believe this should be done, but if we are putting one group at risk, let's put all groups at risk. That's what the Internet is for, right?
But you’re starting out with a false premise. ICE was never “at risk” before they started rampaging through American cities masked and waving around their guns. Now ICE has escalated exponentially in Minneapolis with extrajudicially executing a U.S. citizen and all the other BS ripping people out of cars and beating people up. This problem started at the beginning of Trump’s second term when Miller wasn’t getting the numbers he wanted.
Of course, the government should know who is entering the country and for the most part it does. The overstay and illegal work issue wouldn’t be a problem if we did e-verify. But somehow no one who complains about immigration ever wants to do that.
And finally civilians have privacy rights that federal employees do not.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Follow the logic of doxxing ICE Agents.
ICE is the Gestapo. They execute moms. They disappear people.
Hey everyone, here’s all their info. Go get ‘em!
Good luck.
More akin to the klan and slave catchers.
With stand your ground in 29 states and the castle doctrine in the rest. They’re probably leaving their doors unlocked at night in anticipation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why? Maybe this will prompt ice members to think twice about killing abducting and beating up other human beings
I think the government should prepare a publicly searchable database of all non-authorized immigrants, with entry points, time in country, removals, charges, known family, jobs, addresses, use of services, among other elements.
I don't actually believe this should be done, but if we are putting one group at risk, let's put all groups at risk. That's what the Internet is for, right?
Do you need an adult?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Follow the logic of doxxing ICE Agents.
ICE is the Gestapo. They execute moms. They disappear people.
Hey everyone, here’s all their info. Go get ‘em!
Good luck.
More akin to the klan and slave catchers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Follow the logic of doxxing ICE Agents.
ICE is the Gestapo. They execute moms. They disappear people.
Hey everyone, here’s all their info. Go get ‘em!
Good luck.
More akin to the klan and slave catchers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why? Maybe this will prompt ice members to think twice about killing abducting and beating up other human beings
I think the government should prepare a publicly searchable database of all non-authorized immigrants, with entry points, time in country, removals, charges, known family, jobs, addresses, use of services, among other elements.
I don't actually believe this should be done, but if we are putting one group at risk, let's put all groups at risk. That's what the Internet is for, right?
But you’re starting out with a false premise. ICE was never “at risk” before they started rampaging through American cities masked and waving around their guns. Now ICE has escalated exponentially in Minneapolis with extrajudicially executing a U.S. citizen and all the other BS ripping people out of cars and beating people up. This problem started at the beginning of Trump’s second term when Miller wasn’t getting the numbers he wanted.
Of course, the government should know who is entering the country and for the most part it does. The overstay and illegal work issue wouldn’t be a problem if we did e-verify. But somehow no one who complains about immigration ever wants to do that.
And finally civilians have privacy rights that federal employees do not.
Anonymous wrote:Follow the logic of doxxing ICE Agents.
ICE is the Gestapo. They execute moms. They disappear people.
Hey everyone, here’s all their info. Go get ‘em!
Good luck.