I’m reading the books now. It’s not amazing writing, but what this author does well is creating characters people care about with surprisingly realistic dialogue (not grand speeches or truly witty banter; just realistic dialogue for men).

Sometimes authors are good at all the things — describing landscapes/settings, dialogue, plot, interesting characters, etc. Sometimes it’s just one of those things. Have you ever met someone who’s a great storyteller but not a great writer? Same thing here. I like her characters and I want to read what happens to them. But no, I’m probably never going to read a passage in these books and swoon over the prose.

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

I agree.
However people are dumb en masse therefore the ratings

I think this is a symptom of the quality of new television and film content not being as good as it used to be. People see an above average show and get excited.

Its a show made for women, where the script is almost verbatim and taken from some chick rom com lit written by a woman. The writing is weak. You can read excerpts of her books on amazon. The actors do a good job with the material although in some places they stick way too close to the words in the book and it sounds really out of place. It isn't deep or nuanced. It is new young actors with good bodies who are willing to go all in to make a paycheck. The acting is decent but not incredible - I thought one of the guys was a much better actor than the other. There isn't much out there so this went viral - but not really because it is particularly amazing. Its a Hallmark movie with gay guys.

They filmed all the sex / nude / bedroom scenes on day 1 and 2 of filming. Then filmed the rest and then did the cottage on the last filming days. Filmed the whole thing in a month.

+1000

The actors did a great job for the most part with what they were given, but it was very weak writing.

I wish Tierney had adapted the book more. He pretty much had them just speak the dialogue verbatim. Takes a way from the overall acting at times when the writing is so weak in places.

The books have a MASSIVE fanbase and part of the reason this show took off was that they were feral for the adaption. People were posting about hoping to hear "stupid Canadian wolf bird" for months. These readers know the book so well that a faithful adaption was brilliant.

He only got 2 of the 6 books into the first season! There's so much room for more in season 2. The actors were signed for 3 season, so we'll see if a third gets the green light. Crave would be crazy not to go for it.

It doesn’t seem that most people who watched the show read the books.

Only one of the remaining books is about these two main characters. The other three are about other gay hockey players. I read the author is now writing a third book about these two characters to have more content for the tv series.

After reading a section of the book, I am kind of shocked it had a big following. It is a very simplistic and weak writing. You can read a chapter in about 3 minutes.

I dont hold out much hope for success for a sequel. The factors that came together to make the first series go viral are not going to be there in the next round.

I haven’t read the books, but a friend who did claims that for once the TV adaptation is way better than the books.
I just watch it for Rozanov’s good looks and sass.

Same!

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

I agree.
However people are dumb en masse therefore the ratings

I think this is a symptom of the quality of new television and film content not being as good as it used to be. People see an above average show and get excited.

Its a show made for women, where the script is almost verbatim and taken from some chick rom com lit written by a woman. The writing is weak. You can read excerpts of her books on amazon. The actors do a good job with the material although in some places they stick way too close to the words in the book and it sounds really out of place. It isn't deep or nuanced. It is new young actors with good bodies who are willing to go all in to make a paycheck. The acting is decent but not incredible - I thought one of the guys was a much better actor than the other. There isn't much out there so this went viral - but not really because it is particularly amazing. Its a Hallmark movie with gay guys.

They filmed all the sex / nude / bedroom scenes on day 1 and 2 of filming. Then filmed the rest and then did the cottage on the last filming days. Filmed the whole thing in a month.

+1000

The actors did a great job for the most part with what they were given, but it was very weak writing.

I wish Tierney had adapted the book more. He pretty much had them just speak the dialogue verbatim. Takes a way from the overall acting at times when the writing is so weak in places.

The books have a MASSIVE fanbase and part of the reason this show took off was that they were feral for the adaption. People were posting about hoping to hear "stupid Canadian wolf bird" for months. These readers know the book so well that a faithful adaption was brilliant.

He only got 2 of the 6 books into the first season! There's so much room for more in season 2. The actors were signed for 3 season, so we'll see if a third gets the green light. Crave would be crazy not to go for it.

It doesn’t seem that most people who watched the show read the books.

Only one of the remaining books is about these two main characters. The other three are about other gay hockey players. I read the author is now writing a third book about these two characters to have more content for the tv series.

After reading a section of the book, I am kind of shocked it had a big following. It is a very simplistic and weak writing. You can read a chapter in about 3 minutes.

I dont hold out much hope for success for a sequel. The factors that came together to make the first series go viral are not going to be there in the next round.

I haven’t read the books, but a friend who did claims that for once the TV adaptation is way better than the books.
I just watch it for Rozanov’s good looks and sass.

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

I agree.
However people are dumb en masse therefore the ratings

I think this is a symptom of the quality of new television and film content not being as good as it used to be. People see an above average show and get excited.

Its a show made for women, where the script is almost verbatim and taken from some chick rom com lit written by a woman. The writing is weak. You can read excerpts of her books on amazon. The actors do a good job with the material although in some places they stick way too close to the words in the book and it sounds really out of place. It isn't deep or nuanced. It is new young actors with good bodies who are willing to go all in to make a paycheck. The acting is decent but not incredible - I thought one of the guys was a much better actor than the other. There isn't much out there so this went viral - but not really because it is particularly amazing. Its a Hallmark movie with gay guys.

They filmed all the sex / nude / bedroom scenes on day 1 and 2 of filming. Then filmed the rest and then did the cottage on the last filming days. Filmed the whole thing in a month.

+1000

The actors did a great job for the most part with what they were given, but it was very weak writing.

I wish Tierney had adapted the book more. He pretty much had them just speak the dialogue verbatim. Takes a way from the overall acting at times when the writing is so weak in places.

The books have a MASSIVE fanbase and part of the reason this show took off was that they were feral for the adaption. People were posting about hoping to hear "stupid Canadian wolf bird" for months. These readers know the book so well that a faithful adaption was brilliant.

He only got 2 of the 6 books into the first season! There's so much room for more in season 2. The actors were signed for 3 season, so we'll see if a third gets the green light. Crave would be crazy not to go for it.

It doesn’t seem that most people who watched the show read the books.

Only one of the remaining books is about these two main characters. The other three are about other gay hockey players. I read the author is now writing a third book about these two characters to have more content for the tv series.

After reading a section of the book, I am kind of shocked it had a big following. It is a very simplistic and weak writing. You can read a chapter in about 3 minutes.

I dont hold out much hope for success for a sequel. The factors that came together to make the first series go viral are not going to be there in the next round.

But everyone who read the books watched the show. Again, that's why this series immediately took off.

Most romance series are set in a "world" and each book is about a different couple. You get to see all the characters along the way, but two are center stage. Scott and Ilya have pretty significant roles in all of the books, though they move to secondary character status. Scott is a veteran player and seen as a leader among the queer players. Ilya is Rachel Reid's favorite character and his parts provide both comic relief and some character development. It's unusual that this one lets one couple have multiple books. Rachel Reid said that Shane and Ilya keep coming up in her thoughts, so she's going for a third book for them.

Think about Bridgerton, which gives each sibling a book, but the other siblings are still present at times. The show doesn't do as great of job of this.

Book 1: Scott and Kip
Book 2: Shane and Ilya
Book 3: Ryan and Fabian (Ryan has played on multiple teams)
Book 4: Eric and Kyle (Eric is on the same team as Scott, Kyle works with Kip)
Book 5: Troy and Harris (Troy is on the same team as Ilya, Harris works for that team)
Book 6: Shane and Ilya

Most books are written at the 5th/6th grade level. That doesn't mean the stories aren't interesting!

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

I agree.
However people are dumb en masse therefore the ratings

I think this is a symptom of the quality of new television and film content not being as good as it used to be. People see an above average show and get excited.

Its a show made for women, where the script is almost verbatim and taken from some chick rom com lit written by a woman. The writing is weak. You can read excerpts of her books on amazon. The actors do a good job with the material although in some places they stick way too close to the words in the book and it sounds really out of place. It isn't deep or nuanced. It is new young actors with good bodies who are willing to go all in to make a paycheck. The acting is decent but not incredible - I thought one of the guys was a much better actor than the other. There isn't much out there so this went viral - but not really because it is particularly amazing. Its a Hallmark movie with gay guys.

They filmed all the sex / nude / bedroom scenes on day 1 and 2 of filming. Then filmed the rest and then did the cottage on the last filming days. Filmed the whole thing in a month.

+1000

The actors did a great job for the most part with what they were given, but it was very weak writing.

I wish Tierney had adapted the book more. He pretty much had them just speak the dialogue verbatim. Takes a way from the overall acting at times when the writing is so weak in places.

The books have a MASSIVE fanbase and part of the reason this show took off was that they were feral for the adaption. People were posting about hoping to hear "stupid Canadian wolf bird" for months. These readers know the book so well that a faithful adaption was brilliant.

He only got 2 of the 6 books into the first season! There's so much room for more in season 2. The actors were signed for 3 season, so we'll see if a third gets the green light. Crave would be crazy not to go for it.

It doesn’t seem that most people who watched the show read the books.

Only one of the remaining books is about these two main characters. The other three are about other gay hockey players. I read the author is now writing a third book about these two characters to have more content for the tv series.

After reading a section of the book, I am kind of shocked it had a big following. It is a very simplistic and weak writing. You can read a chapter in about 3 minutes.

I dont hold out much hope for success for a sequel. The factors that came together to make the first series go viral are not going to be there in the next round.

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I hate it when people think like you (no offense to you personally) and smart people at that. It means you understand nothing about great drama if you find it merely “depressing”.
Even more sad is the fact that you don’t understand how this show is mediocre in terms of dramatic effect. It’s a high quality music video with erotic elements and that’s it.
-DP

Is there any romance that meets your high standards?

fwiw, Game of Thrones is more explicit and I've never seen someone call those scenes "erotic moments." Hm.

I'm not the PP but The Sopranos was a love story. Just because something has a romantic element doesn't mean it's not high-quality.

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I hate it when people think like you (no offense to you personally) and smart people at that. It means you understand nothing about great drama if you find it merely “depressing”.
Even more sad is the fact that you don’t understand how this show is mediocre in terms of dramatic effect. It’s a high quality music video with erotic elements and that’s it.
-DP

Is there any romance that meets your high standards?

fwiw, Game of Thrones is more explicit and I've never seen someone call those scenes "erotic moments." Hm.

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

I agree.
However people are dumb en masse therefore the ratings

I think this is a symptom of the quality of new television and film content not being as good as it used to be. People see an above average show and get excited.

Its a show made for women, where the script is almost verbatim and taken from some chick rom com lit written by a woman. The writing is weak. You can read excerpts of her books on amazon. The actors do a good job with the material although in some places they stick way too close to the words in the book and it sounds really out of place. It isn't deep or nuanced. It is new young actors with good bodies who are willing to go all in to make a paycheck. The acting is decent but not incredible - I thought one of the guys was a much better actor than the other. There isn't much out there so this went viral - but not really because it is particularly amazing. Its a Hallmark movie with gay guys.

They filmed all the sex / nude / bedroom scenes on day 1 and 2 of filming. Then filmed the rest and then did the cottage on the last filming days. Filmed the whole thing in a month.

+1000

The actors did a great job for the most part with what they were given, but it was very weak writing.

I wish Tierney had adapted the book more. He pretty much had them just speak the dialogue verbatim. Takes a way from the overall acting at times when the writing is so weak in places.

The books have a MASSIVE fanbase and part of the reason this show took off was that they were feral for the adaption. People were posting about hoping to hear "stupid Canadian wolf bird" for months. These readers know the book so well that a faithful adaption was brilliant.

He only got 2 of the 6 books into the first season! There's so much room for more in season 2. The actors were signed for 3 season, so we'll see if a third gets the green light. Crave would be crazy not to go for it.

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Anonymous wrote:This show is incredible. Episode five doesn’t have sex and it’s the best episode of tv this year.

+1. The last 15 minutes of Episode 4, the entire Ep 5 and most of 6 are a cinematic masterpiece.
Whoever styled Ilya…I mean Connor deserves a fat paycheck. That man’s fits were 🔥 in every scene. Don’t even get me started on the hair styling.

The costume designer has been posting on instagram about where items were sourced and why certain decisions were made.

Interview with another account: https://www.instagram.com/p/DTdiyQ_kXMC/

Her own posts:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DTH78ZKEUpF
https://www.instagram.com/p/DSt2rGHl28R/
https://www.instagram.com/p/DS5-4aFkfXu

Anonymous wrote:This show is incredible. Episode five doesn’t have sex and it’s the best episode of tv this year.

+1. The last 15 minutes of Episode 4, the entire Ep 5 and most of 6 are a cinematic masterpiece.
Whoever styled Ilya…I mean Connor deserves a fat paycheck. That man’s fits were 🔥 in every scene. Don’t even get me started on the hair styling.

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I hate it when people think like you (no offense to you personally) and smart people at that. It means you understand nothing about great drama if you find it merely “depressing”.
Even more sad is the fact that you don’t understand how this show is mediocre in terms of dramatic effect. It’s a high quality music video with erotic elements and that’s it.
-DP

I do understand that The Wire is a much higher quality dramatic TV show. Still, I don’t enjoy watching The Wire. After a stressful day, I like to watch something entertaining at night. It’a great that we all like different things.

It's almost like you can't follow a thread with your PhD. The point of bringing up The Wire was to say that this show's ratings on Rotten Tomatoes are not indicative of its quality, but of something else. I don't think anyone said it wasn't an entertaining show, the point is that it's not as deep or as much of a social commentary or as high-quality as some people are saying. That doesn't make it enjoyable to watch. Does that make sense to you?

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I hate it when people think like you (no offense to you personally) and smart people at that. It means you understand nothing about great drama if you find it merely “depressing”.
Even more sad is the fact that you don’t understand how this show is mediocre in terms of dramatic effect. It’s a high quality music video with erotic elements and that’s it.
-DP

I do understand that The Wire is a much higher quality dramatic TV show. Still, I don’t enjoy watching The Wire. After a stressful day, I like to watch something entertaining at night. It’a great that we all like different things.

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I hate it when people think like you (no offense to you personally) and smart people at that. It means you understand nothing about great drama if you find it merely “depressing”.
Even more sad is the fact that you don’t understand how this show is mediocre in terms of dramatic effect. It’s a high quality music video with erotic elements and that’s it.
-DP

+1

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

I agree.
However people are dumb en masse therefore the ratings

I think this is a symptom of the quality of new television and film content not being as good as it used to be. People see an above average show and get excited.

Its a show made for women, where the script is almost verbatim and taken from some chick rom com lit written by a woman. The writing is weak. You can read excerpts of her books on amazon. The actors do a good job with the material although in some places they stick way too close to the words in the book and it sounds really out of place. It isn't deep or nuanced. It is new young actors with good bodies who are willing to go all in to make a paycheck. The acting is decent but not incredible - I thought one of the guys was a much better actor than the other. There isn't much out there so this went viral - but not really because it is particularly amazing. Its a Hallmark movie with gay guys.

They filmed all the sex / nude / bedroom scenes on day 1 and 2 of filming. Then filmed the rest and then did the cottage on the last filming days. Filmed the whole thing in a month.

+1000

The actors did a great job for the most part with what they were given, but it was very weak writing.

I wish Tierney had adapted the book more. He pretty much had them just speak the dialogue verbatim. Takes a way from the overall acting at times when the writing is so weak in places.

I also think dialogue on a book and dialogue on the screen can hit differently, so I wish they had taken that into account. Sometimes it did feel like they were "reading lines" for lack of a better term. Again though, the actors did a great job with a sub-par script.

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Anonymous wrote:98% on Rotten Tomatoes, 9+ on IMDB and only 5-star ratings on Amazon, plus hot young athletes? Yah, I am watching this tonight. Thanks for bringing this show up, DCUM.

FWIW, I think the show has such high ratings because it's having a viral moment. It was a fine show with some phenomenal acting and a nice story line but it's not The Wire.

Not a fan of The Wire & Breaking Bad. I don’t enjoys depressing shows. Love Heated Rivalry. It’s a beautiful story, beautifully shot and executed. I like that it’s indie and low budget. The sex scenes are surprisingly very hot.
Signed, a 50 year old straight mom with a PhD.

I hate it when people think like you (no offense to you personally) and smart people at that. It means you understand nothing about great drama if you find it merely “depressing”.
Even more sad is the fact that you don’t understand how this show is mediocre in terms of dramatic effect. It’s a high quality music video with erotic elements and that’s it.
-DP