Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did they raise a Palestinian flag or add the Palestinian flag to the others hanging in the hall?
They added it to the many other flags in the gym, which have included the flag of Israel for years now
Okay, so why is that part of the complaint? The Hitler poster, the bullying, antisemitic comments I totally think are valid cause for concern. It's weird that this flag has become part of the complaint.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did they raise a Palestinian flag or add the Palestinian flag to the others hanging in the hall?
They added it to the many other flags in the gym, which have included the flag of Israel for years now
I read that it was added.Anonymous wrote:Did they raise a Palestinian flag or add the Palestinian flag to the others hanging in the hall?
Anonymous wrote:Did they raise a Palestinian flag or add the Palestinian flag to the others hanging in the hall?
Anonymous wrote:Re: "As a lawyer..." Give the complaint a more detailed read, through a strategic lens, and pay attention to the dates.
As to "the image" one need only look at the actual assignment posted above and screenshot circulated on Twitter by Nysmith students -to recognize that the AG complaint is deliberately structured for maximum outrage.
If you are familiar with Machiavelli's "The Prince," reading that assignment should leave you feeling completely manipulated. It reads as an obvious lesson in political realism and the dangers of certain leadership traits. If you aren't bothered by how this has been presented to you in the complaint, then perhaps you need to take a step back and consider your own biases.
Those parents, and these prestigious firms you speak of, deliberately and completely collapsed context to paint those students (nay, "the community") as little hitler worshippers. We call that manufacturing a narrative, and in hindsight my skepticism meter should have been raising alarm bells from the word go.
Nobody- absolutely nobody- was celebrating Hitler or even making the suggestion of "strong leadership." Heck, if you read the assignment, it's not even Hitler, but a conglomeration of "current and historical figures."
So far as I'm concerned, this undermines the entire complaint, and it serves as a reminder that everything it alleges should be taken with a grain of salt. It's from a single perspective of two scorned parents speculating about a lot of things they wouldn't be in a postion to know. And at the heart of the matter is an eleven year old girl in emotional distress at a vulnerable age.
Let's not pretend that the purported prestige of a lawfirm conveys due diligence and veracity. A legal complaint is merely that. Nysmith hasn't been served with anything. There's been no investigation of any sort because that is what the complaint is requesting. It's on the AG to investigate. The strategy of that complaint should be obvious, but unfortunately for Nysmith, outrage moves quickly and truth takes time.
Anonymous wrote:Re: "As a lawyer..." Give the complaint a more detailed read, through a strategic lens, and pay attention to the dates.
As to "the image" one need only look at the actual assignment posted above and screenshot circulated on Twitter by Nysmith students -to recognize that the AG complaint is deliberately structured for maximum outrage.
If you are familiar with Machiavelli's "The Prince," reading that assignment should leave you feeling completely manipulated. It reads as an obvious lesson in political realism and the dangers of certain leadership traits. If you aren't bothered by how this has been presented to you in the complaint, then perhaps you need to take a step back and consider your own biases.
Those parents, and these prestigious firms you speak of, deliberately and completely collapsed context to paint those students (nay, "the community") as little hitler worshippers. We call that manufacturing a narrative, and in hindsight my skepticism meter should have been raising alarm bells from the word go.
Nobody- absolutely nobody- was celebrating Hitler or even making the suggestion of "strong leadership." Heck, if you read the assignment, it's not even Hitler, but a conglomeration of "current and historical figures."
So far as I'm concerned, this undermines the entire complaint, and it serves as a reminder that everything it alleges should be taken with a grain of salt. It's from a single perspective of two scorned parents speculating about a lot of things they wouldn't be in a postion to know. And at the heart of the matter is an eleven year old girl in emotional distress at a vulnerable age.
Let's not pretend that the purported prestige of a lawfirm conveys due diligence and veracity. A legal complaint is merely that. Nysmith hasn't been served with anything. There's been no investigation of any sort because that is what the complaint is requesting. It's on the AG to investigate. The strategy of that complaint should be obvious, but unfortunately for Nysmith, outrage moves quickly and truth takes time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look, the school may be a den of antisemitism as far as I know but I think it’s disingenuous to refer to the kids as having identified Hitler as a “strong historical leader” without adding the context that it was in regard to course work about Machiavelli and characteristics he espoused.
Didn't Trump say something about how Hitler did some good things? Then he turned around and told Jews to vote for him.
And 78% of us didn't.
Anonymous wrote:Re: "As a lawyer..." Give the complaint a more detailed read, through a strategic lens, and pay attention to the dates.
As to "the image" one need only look at the actual assignment posted above and screenshot circulated on Twitter by Nysmith students -to recognize that the AG complaint is deliberately structured for maximum outrage.
If you are familiar with Machiavelli's "The Prince," reading that assignment should leave you feeling completely manipulated. It reads as an obvious lesson in political realism and the dangers of certain leadership traits. If you aren't bothered by how this has been presented to you in the complaint, then perhaps you need to take a step back and consider your own biases.
Those parents, and these prestigious firms you speak of, deliberately and completely collapsed context to paint those students (nay, "the community") as little hitler worshippers. We call that manufacturing a narrative, and in hindsight my skepticism meter should have been raising alarm bells from the word go.
Nobody- absolutely nobody- was celebrating Hitler or even making the suggestion of "strong leadership." Heck, if you read the assignment, it's not even Hitler, but a conglomeration of "current and historical figures."
So far as I'm concerned, this undermines the entire complaint, and it serves as a reminder that everything it alleges should be taken with a grain of salt. It's from a single perspective of two scorned parents speculating about a lot of things they wouldn't be in a postion to know. And at the heart of the matter is an eleven year old girl in emotional distress at a vulnerable age.
Let's not pretend that the purported prestige of a lawfirm conveys due diligence and veracity. A legal complaint is merely that. Nysmith hasn't been served with anything. There's been no investigation of any sort because that is what the complaint is requesting. It's on the AG to investigate. The strategy of that complaint should be obvious, but unfortunately for Nysmith, outrage moves quickly and truth takes time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look, the school may be a den of antisemitism as far as I know but I think it’s disingenuous to refer to the kids as having identified Hitler as a “strong historical leader” without adding the context that it was in regard to course work about Machiavelli and characteristics he espoused.
Yeah there's no "context" that makes it a good idea to identify Hitler as a strong historical leader ffs.
Anonymous wrote:Look, the school may be a den of antisemitism as far as I know but I think it’s disingenuous to refer to the kids as having identified Hitler as a “strong historical leader” without adding the context that it was in regard to course work about Machiavelli and characteristics he espoused.
Anonymous wrote:
In their efforts to label every criticism of Israel as "anti Semitic", certain people have made the rest of the world more prone to dismiss real attacks against Jews. It's really sad.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As another poster said, it sounds like no adults acted well.
The Hitler drawing should not have been allowed by the teacher. There was probably some comments criticizing the state of Israel that the parents complaint about. And then it all snowballed from there, because everyone lost their tempers, including the Head.
I think we can all agree that the students who were expelled are the victims. Of all the adults.
If we are speculating I agree it’s very plausible there were comments about the state of Israel and equally plausible that there were or were also comments that the IDF is doing a bang up job and all the people they’ve killed are “bad guys.”