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Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.

The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.

That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.

50 years - at most - of preferences for black Americans does not undo the legacy of slavery + Jim Crow, which goes back hundreds of years.

But anyway, what are these "preferences" that the poster is talking about that cancel out any discussion of reparations? Also, reparations are not part of a zero-sum game, reparations are not taking anything from anyone.

Random question. How will recent African immigrants feel about African Americans getting reparations and they don't? African immigrants also face systemic racism in the US, but are not descendants of the enslaved.

Who cares how they feel. They are racist towards black Americans too.

So now only African blacks can be racist, never African Americans can be racist.
How convenient!

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Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.

The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.

That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.

50 years - at most - of preferences for black Americans does not undo the legacy of slavery + Jim Crow, which goes back hundreds of years.

But anyway, what are these "preferences" that the poster is talking about that cancel out any discussion of reparations? Also, reparations are not part of a zero-sum game, reparations are not taking anything from anyone.

Random question. How will recent African immigrants feel about African Americans getting reparations and they don't? African immigrants also face systemic racism in the US, but are not descendants of the enslaved.

Who cares how they feel. They are racist towards black Americans too.

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Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.

The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.

That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.

DP: Honestly, I’d be happier with genuine community investment (We got “separate “ but never “equal “) and genuine acknowledgment of the history of the US — starting with elementary school texts. I don’t see either of those things happening, particularly with the current predilection for white washing history and banning access to books.

You have no idea about the teaching of U.S. history in this country - that is apparent. It is nonstop injustice starting with the "Three Worlds Meet" unit until the Contemporary era, with focuses on expanding the definition of "We the People" and expanding civil rights.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s definitely trying to appeal to the conservative side in preparation for his future presidential campaign

I wouldn’t even that far. Reparations is such a political loser that it just demonstrates that the man has a pulse. I commend him for being alive and breathing in 2025.

+1. Many black people find the idea of reparations to be repulsive and offensive. It's a fringe idea. Pretty much no reasonably intelligent person thinks it's a good idea.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.

The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.

That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.

50 years - at most - of preferences for black Americans does not undo the legacy of slavery + Jim Crow, which goes back hundreds of years.

But anyway, what are these "preferences" that the poster is talking about that cancel out any discussion of reparations? Also, reparations are not part of a zero-sum game, reparations are not taking anything from anyone.

Random question. How will recent African immigrants feel about African Americans getting reparations and they don't? African immigrants also face systemic racism in the US, but are not descendants of the enslaved.

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Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.

The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.

That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.

DP: Honestly, I’d be happier with genuine community investment (We got “separate “ but never “equal “) and genuine acknowledgment of the history of the US — starting with elementary school texts. I don’t see either of those things happening, particularly with the current predilection for white washing history and banning access to books.

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Anonymous wrote:He was right to do so. Maryland is in a bad financial place. The credit rating was just downgraded by Moody's. They can't afford reparations right now, and that's even before you get into all the many, many practical problems with reparations at the state level. Spending a few million on a consultant to study reparations would be a waste.

The study was estimated to have cost $1-2 million (just to have a study). If Maryland is in such dire straights financially it seems like an illogical ask of tax payers to fund this while raising state taxes and drastically cutting other funding in seeking to balance the state budget. If this had been when the state was running at a surplus, then it probably would have been signed.

We need that money we stole from poor Black people to fund our lifestyle.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ Just to follow up, let's not forget that he'd be following in good footsteps when he does this:


https://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/22/obama.presidency/

Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday that he may run for president in 2008, despite previous assertions that he would complete his current six-year senatorial term, which ends in 2011.

"I would say I am still at the point where I have not made a decision to pursue higher office, but it is true that I have thought about it over the last several months," the 45-year-old Democratic senator from Illinois told NBC's "Meet the Press."

In January, Obama told NBC that he would not run for president or vice president in 2008.

Wes Moore is no Barack Obama, in any way.

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Anonymous wrote:Given today’s political climate, I think it’s hilarious that we are even having this discussion. We are lucky our democracy stays intact. Read.the.room. We are so far from reparations.

The fact that America has never bothered to fix the wrongs done to black Americans is exactly why we are here. This country is just doing to other people what it has always done to Black people (and yes Natives). White American refusal to see how these things are related are exactly why we are here.

That's your perspective. Many would say that giving blacks preference for jobs, college admissions, government grants and contracts, and housing programs, over the course of many decades, was fixing the wrongs, and many blacks have succeeded because of all of those opportunities. But yes, we understand that the "fix" you now want for those that didn't take advantage of all of those opportunities is big, fat reparations checks.

50 years - at most - of preferences for black Americans does not undo the legacy of slavery + Jim Crow, which goes back hundreds of years.

But anyway, what are these "preferences" that the poster is talking about that cancel out any discussion of reparations? Also, reparations are not part of a zero-sum game, reparations are not taking anything from anyone.

Random question. How will recent African immigrants feel about African Americans getting reparations and they don't? African immigrants also face systemic racism in the US, but are not descendants of the enslaved.

It’s not just facing systemic racism today. It’s about hundreds of years of the government enacting and maintaining (often through violence) policies that stripped their ancestors’ of the opportunities to build wealth while at the same time enacting and maintaining policies intended to lift up white folks. It was the biggest DEI scheme in history and it lasted for hundreds of years.