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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

Is this an indication that WM is planning to grow in size? I hope not, because the size is a big selling point for many students.

It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore

I don't think that's true.

The student body has increased by like 800 since fall 2020. But they're not filling on campus upperclassman housing. That seems like exactly that

70% of undergraduates live on campus. That is an indication upper class students do live on campus. Demand is also related to quality of supply and quantity is increasing.

It has not been 70% in years. The current reported number is 58%. It will go up slightly next year but the number of beds is equal to what it was prior to the start of the dorm construction, so if there's an equal number of beds and 400 additional upperclassman and a 100 bed vacancy that means the % of upperclassman choosing to live on campus has gone down a lot.

Not sure why you're so bothered by that reality anyways, it's perfectly understandable that students might not want to share a bedroom for 4 years and not have access to a full kitchen or private communal spaces.

I was simply reacting to this statement, which isn't true: "It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore"

Well yes ~16% of upperclassman is very low compared to historic numbers.

It is supply and demand, but there is a quality aspect to supply. The supply and quality of off-campus housing has increased, while on campus quantity has not grown and quality had declined. This is changing very rapidly for on-campus housing, so we will see if the on campus numbers for upperclassmen changes in the next couple of years.

You're right, but a big aspect of quality is having an individual room. There aren't any plans to build apartment style dorms.

Anonymous wrote:Of what i understand. It is a crap shoot weather a junior gets on campus housing. And the chance to be in walking distance to campus from a apartment you need to sign a lease a year in advance. My child drove to high school. She can drive to WM if she lives off campus.

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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

Is this an indication that WM is planning to grow in size? I hope not, because the size is a big selling point for many students.

It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore

I don't think that's true.

The student body has increased by like 800 since fall 2020. But they're not filling on campus upperclassman housing. That seems like exactly that

70% of undergraduates live on campus. That is an indication upper class students do live on campus. Demand is also related to quality of supply and quantity is increasing.

It has not been 70% in years. The current reported number is 58%. It will go up slightly next year but the number of beds is equal to what it was prior to the start of the dorm construction, so if there's an equal number of beds and 400 additional upperclassman and a 100 bed vacancy that means the % of upperclassman choosing to live on campus has gone down a lot.

Not sure why you're so bothered by that reality anyways, it's perfectly understandable that students might not want to share a bedroom for 4 years and not have access to a full kitchen or private communal spaces.

I was simply reacting to this statement, which isn't true: "It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore"

Well yes ~16% of upperclassman is very low compared to historic numbers.

It is supply and demand, but there is a quality aspect to supply. The supply and quality of off-campus housing has increased, while on campus quantity has not grown and quality had declined. This is changing very rapidly for on-campus housing, so we will see if the on campus numbers for upperclassmen changes in the next couple of years.

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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

Is this an indication that WM is planning to grow in size? I hope not, because the size is a big selling point for many students.

It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore

I don't think that's true.

The student body has increased by like 800 since fall 2020. But they're not filling on campus upperclassman housing. That seems like exactly that

70% of undergraduates live on campus. That is an indication upper class students do live on campus. Demand is also related to quality of supply and quantity is increasing.

It has not been 70% in years. The current reported number is 58%. It will go up slightly next year but the number of beds is equal to what it was prior to the start of the dorm construction, so if there's an equal number of beds and 400 additional upperclassman and a 100 bed vacancy that means the % of upperclassman choosing to live on campus has gone down a lot.

Not sure why you're so bothered by that reality anyways, it's perfectly understandable that students might not want to share a bedroom for 4 years and not have access to a full kitchen or private communal spaces.

I was simply reacting to this statement, which isn't true: "It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore"

Well yes ~16% of upperclassman is very low compared to historic numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

Is this an indication that WM is planning to grow in size? I hope not, because the size is a big selling point for many students.

It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore

I don't think that's true.

The student body has increased by like 800 since fall 2020. But they're not filling on campus upperclassman housing. That seems like exactly that

70% of undergraduates live on campus. That is an indication upper class students do live on campus. Demand is also related to quality of supply and quantity is increasing.

It has not been 70% in years. The current reported number is 58%. It will go up slightly next year but the number of beds is equal to what it was prior to the start of the dorm construction, so if there's an equal number of beds and 400 additional upperclassman and a 100 bed vacancy that means the % of upperclassman choosing to live on campus has gone down a lot.

Not sure why you're so bothered by that reality anyways, it's perfectly understandable that students might not want to share a bedroom for 4 years and not have access to a full kitchen or private communal spaces.

I was simply reacting to this statement, which isn't true: "It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore"

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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

Is this an indication that WM is planning to grow in size? I hope not, because the size is a big selling point for many students.

It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore

I don't think that's true.

The student body has increased by like 800 since fall 2020. But they're not filling on campus upperclassman housing. That seems like exactly that

70% of undergraduates live on campus. That is an indication upper class students do live on campus. Demand is also related to quality of supply and quantity is increasing.

It has not been 70% in years. The current reported number is 58%. It will go up slightly next year but the number of beds is equal to what it was prior to the start of the dorm construction, so if there's an equal number of beds and 400 additional upperclassman and a 100 bed vacancy that means the % of upperclassman choosing to live on campus has gone down a lot.

Not sure why you're so bothered by that reality anyways, it's perfectly understandable that students might not want to share a bedroom for 4 years and not have access to a full kitchen or private communal spaces.

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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

Is this an indication that WM is planning to grow in size? I hope not, because the size is a big selling point for many students.

It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore

I don't think that's true.

The student body has increased by like 800 since fall 2020. But they're not filling on campus upperclassman housing. That seems like exactly that

70% of undergraduates live on campus. That is an indication upper class students do live on campus. Demand is also related to quality of supply and quantity is increasing.

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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

Is this an indication that WM is planning to grow in size? I hope not, because the size is a big selling point for many students.

It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore

I don't think that's true.

The student body has increased by like 800 since fall 2020. But they're not filling on campus upperclassman housing. That seems like exactly that

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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

Is this an indication that WM is planning to grow in size? I hope not, because the size is a big selling point for many students.

It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore

I don't think that's true.

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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

Is this an indication that WM is planning to grow in size? I hope not, because the size is a big selling point for many students.

It's an indication that nobody wants to live on campus after sophomore year anymore

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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

Is this an indication that WM is planning to grow in size? I hope not, because the size is a big selling point for many students.

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Anonymous wrote:Related-Does W&M have same housing shortage after first year? By what month do kids need to secure housing for the following year? We have heard some schools need to sign leases as soon as October? What is it like at W&M as would want to also make sure incoming kids also know when to be thinking about that.

Housing is required for 2 years so there's no stress your first year. After sophomore year most students move off-campus but there is housing for upperclassman. There was a shortage of that in previous years, but with the new dorms there will actually be more on campus housing then there is demand for next year (I was told 100 unfilled beds next year?)

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Anonymous wrote:GGV is closed

Or will it be?? They announced yesterday that the new dinning hall will not open til January. When will they announce what dorms are definitely opening??

GGV has 400 beds, the new dorms have 1000, obviously they're going to open them on time

Not all of the dorms are at the same level of completion. Is that hard to understand??