my kid is an athlete - but a figure skater which is not recruitable in the US. (obv if you have an olympic medal it's a plus)

so good GPA, excellent SATs and APs, plus very focused athlete with very little "impact"/"passion project" etc = great candidate for UK. plus, great skating there.

also we're full pay so we're looking at schools that are 35k GBP. plus room and board. it's a lot cheaper.

Anonymous wrote:Will my daughter be safe there? I keep reading about grooming gangs.

Grooming gangs target 12 yr olds.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

Depends on the country, and having an EU passport.

Passport is irrelevant the fees are based on residency over the past 3 yrs.

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Anonymous wrote:Our US tours focused heavily on social factors that DS didn’t care about. His Cambridge tour was perfect and convinced him that it was the academic space he craved. He’s now graduated and it was worth every penny!

Same with our kid at Oxford. They were fed up with the woke, race, DEI, crap of American universities. Three years in and veey happy.

In other words, I’ll fly my kid half way round the world in the hope that they don’t have to run into black people on campus

Wanting to avoid black people is racist - which identifies you as such and/or as ignorant. Those wanting to avoid a woke mindset are not purely doing so for racial bias. Mainly its leftist and identity politics most want to avoid and to gain admission based upon their academic strength - not the color of their skin or biased interpretation of gender/orientation. Please keep your kid and self in the DVM, NYC and CA.

I’m ignorant because you’re racist? Got it.

Relatively low GPA, but excellent APs

My kid very much wants to go to university overseas but we are discouraging (my not allow) for personal reasons. Her motivation is that the US is full of conflict, racism, and crime. She also said she'd like to be a teacher but would never want to teach in US schools because she's been doing school shooting drills since kindergarten and because her teachers tell her that their jobs suck. I'm not saying these are good reasons (and she doesn't understand how hard it is to get a work visa outside your home country), but this is what she is expressing (strongly).

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Anonymous wrote:Our US tours focused heavily on social factors that DS didn’t care about. His Cambridge tour was perfect and convinced him that it was the academic space he craved. He’s now graduated and it was worth every penny!

Same with our kid at Oxford. They were fed up with the woke, race, DEI, crap of American universities. Three years in and veey happy.

In other words, I’ll fly my kid half way round the world in the hope that they don’t have to run into black people on campus

Wanting to avoid black people is racist - which identifies you as such and/or as ignorant. Those wanting to avoid a woke mindset are not purely doing so for racial bias. Mainly its leftist and identity politics most want to avoid and to gain admission based upon their academic strength - not the color of their skin or biased interpretation of gender/orientation. Please keep your kid and self in the DVM, NYC and CA.

Will my daughter be safe there? I keep reading about grooming gangs.

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Anonymous wrote:Our US tours focused heavily on social factors that DS didn’t care about. His Cambridge tour was perfect and convinced him that it was the academic space he craved. He’s now graduated and it was worth every penny!

Same with our kid at Oxford. They were fed up with the woke, race, DEI, crap of American universities. Three years in and veey happy.

In other words, I’ll fly my kid half way round the world in the hope that they don’t have to run into black people on campus

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

Depends on the country, and having an EU passport.

- deep focus on subject of interest
- community fit / more mature student body
- differentiation for US graduate school
- global brand prestige
- hedge vs US T20 target school ‘holistic admissions’

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

My child has applied to MacGill and Bishops University in Canada. Even full pay and including travel, it’s cheaper per year than a private college here or SUNY Stonybrook where he also applied.

All-in, it will be 52k USD for the Canadian schools. It includes visa assistance and research opportunities that are dwindling in the US right now.

He’s deciding where to go next year, but he applied abroad because a lot of brain drain is happening with US colleges. The other reason is that there isn’t the application craziness that the US college applications include. If you have the grades and the scores, you are in. M

The ones going to Oxford or Cambridge are going because they are two of the best schools in the world and it's a real privilege and opportunity to get in.

The ones going elsewhere (here's looking at you, St Andrews) are going because they can't into the good schools in the USA and want to save face.

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Anonymous wrote:Tuition is less expensive.

Not anymore. I have a kid at Oxford. Tuition (only) is now $37,389 to $62,820 (STEM) pounds sterling = $80,000. Add in their estimated living costs of $14k - $20k and you are easily at $100k for 2025-2026. And Oxford doesn’t have great financial aid or merit like the US universities do to bring that number down

Keep in mind also you are paying for one month less of school each academic year than in the U.S. They are not in term very much….