Anonymous
09/19/2024 22:26
Subject: What are the odds all three of my children are “queer”
Anonymous wrote:Genetic component. You or DH are probably in denial.
LOL
Anonymous
09/19/2024 19:50
Subject: What are the odds all three of my children are “queer”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Article from 2019:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/there-is-no-gay-gene-there-is-no-straight-gene-sexuality-is-just-complex-study-confirms
When the team looked more broadly across all the genomes — across the thousands of genes that they screened for the nearly 500,000 subjects — the genes similarities they found could only account for 8 to 25 percent of same-sex sexual behavior.
“It’s effectively impossible to predict an individual’s sexual behavior from their genome,” said Ben Neale, a geneticist at Massachusetts General Hospital and the Broad Institute who led the study. “Genetics is less than half of this story for sexual behavior.”
I can’t find the study now but I remember another study that found a decently strong genetic component but only for males and only along the maternal line (X chromosome connected like hair loss). And it was correlated with females with a high rate of childbirth so the researches indicated it wasn’t so much a “gay gene” but more likely a “really likes sex with men” gene that expresses in females as sexually activity heterosexuality and in males as sexually active homosexuality. I thought that was really interesting and correlated with several gay male friends of mine that had gay male uncles in their mom’s side.
Female sexuality seems to me more complicated and much more of a sliding Kinsey scale that seems more heavily influenced by social norms, peer behavior, and environmental factors like negative interactions with males. But I don’t have any science for that one — just 50 years of observations!
I disagree that female sexuality is any more fluid than male sexuality. If you look at how many men in prison are “gay for the stay” you’ll see that many more men are bisexual than admit it publicly because it’s more socially acceptable for women to be bi.
Agreed! It’s more acceptable for women to be bi, so more are coming out. If it similarly becomes more acceptable for men to be bi, I’d wager the same would occur.
When people are accepted and free to be themselves, we realize that we are all so much more different. We adhere to social norms for safety and community; once sexuality isnt a part of that I think we’ll see a lot more people being their authentic selves.
Anonymous
09/19/2024 19:19
Subject: Re:What are the odds all three of my children are “queer”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not random, but they could be influencing each other or be the type to get carried away with social trends. Highly religious families are very conformist - they just conform to a different time. Their kids or grandkids conform to current times.
My take is that there is an enormous amount of conversation about sexual identity. My son's grade has sixteen kids who identify as trans and are constantly using new names and new pronouns. I think it's great we are more socially accepting and discuss sexual identity aloud. Who knows what is experimentation versus what is genetic, as long as we love our children and support them in becoming confident adults.
I agree the word “fad” trivializes something important and it’s not the right word. But it is correct to point out that there is more discussion about alternative orientations and so some kids are going to try things out and see if some of these alternatives are who they are.
Anonymous
09/19/2024 18:52
Subject: What are the odds all three of my children are “queer”
Anonymous wrote:I think there’s a genetic component but also something in the environment.
This. Like the genetics make a fetus more susceptible to certain chemicals. I think the same thing about vaccines. Some people are clearly affected by things that clearly don’t affect other people in the same way.
Anonymous
09/19/2024 18:36
Subject: What are the odds all three of my children are “queer”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Were they being groomed by religious figures? It's quite common for children who were sexually abused to find "alternative" sexuality more comfortable.
This is not true.
It's actually far more common than you think. Many children were abused by various religious leaders at different religious organizations. Their insidious behaviors affected those children for the rest of their lives. Please don't discount the lived experiences of abused children at the hands of your religious leaders.
You don’t know jack shit
Are you trying to deny that religious leaders molested and raped children? I'm confused at your point, if there is one. Perhaps it is you that "don't know jack shit", but I'm guessing you couldn't articulate a clarification if requested anyways.
Its not the only reason but likely a significant factor and its not limited to catholics, its present in every religion with gender segregation and adult-child interaction like catholic schools, buddhist and hindu monasteries, muslim madrassas etc
Anonymous
09/19/2024 18:30
Subject: What are the odds all three of my children are “queer”
Anonymous wrote:Even if they end up in Hell for eternity it’s important to support their choice and make a tiny fraction of existence more pleasant.
When it comes to mental health and religion, mental health should always take priority. God can deal with it, people can't.
Anonymous
09/19/2024 18:27
Subject: What are the odds all three of my children are “queer”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Article from 2019:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/there-is-no-gay-gene-there-is-no-straight-gene-sexuality-is-just-complex-study-confirms
When the team looked more broadly across all the genomes — across the thousands of genes that they screened for the nearly 500,000 subjects — the genes similarities they found could only account for 8 to 25 percent of same-sex sexual behavior.
“It’s effectively impossible to predict an individual’s sexual behavior from their genome,” said Ben Neale, a geneticist at Massachusetts General Hospital and the Broad Institute who led the study. “Genetics is less than half of this story for sexual behavior.”
I can’t find the study now but I remember another study that found a decently strong genetic component but only for males and only along the maternal line (X chromosome connected like hair loss). And it was correlated with females with a high rate of childbirth so the researches indicated it wasn’t so much a “gay gene” but more likely a “really likes sex with men” gene that expresses in females as sexually activity heterosexuality and in males as sexually active homosexuality. I thought that was really interesting and correlated with several gay male friends of mine that had gay male uncles in their mom’s side.
Female sexuality seems to me more complicated and much more of a sliding Kinsey scale that seems more heavily influenced by social norms, peer behavior, and environmental factors like negative interactions with males. But I don’t have any science for that one — just 50 years of observations!
I disagree that female sexuality is any more fluid than male sexuality. If you look at how many men in prison are “gay for the stay” you’ll see that many more men are bisexual than admit it publicly because it’s more socially acceptable for women to be bi.
You can disagree all you want but multiple research studies tell us it is true.