Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 13:08     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
Anonymous wrote:OP, imagine how you'd feel if your child's campus hired people with no formal hiring process or background checks, and then an employee injured your child. You'd be screaming about their lax hiring process.


NP. Campus jobs do background checks (talking work study and similar jobs for student workers)? They don’t in my experience. Since I’ve been hired on the spot for jobs before I’m curious about this.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 13:04     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
OP, imagine how you'd feel if your child's campus hired people with no formal hiring process or background checks, and then an employee injured your child. You'd be screaming about their lax hiring process.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 13:01     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We found that Work Study accounted for all jobs on campus. And Work Study (or a similar term) was tied to the financial aid process and financial aid awards to students. A student who was full pay but wanted to work a campus job, that was a hard find.


NP. Just noting -- absolutely first priority for any campus job belongs to work-study (financial aid) students. But it's not always true everywhere that "a student who was full pay but wanted to work a campus job, that was a hard find." DC is full pay at a small college but that doesn't mean DC is awash in cash for books, course materials, clothes, etc., and DC prefers to earn money rather than have us hand it over. So DC has made an effort to find some campus jobs that either weren't part of the financial aid/work study process or were small, one-time projects for professors etc. I'd never want DC to take work that could be done by a kid who needs financial aid, but I'm also glad DC wants to feel it's good to earn. DC also has several friends whom we know are also full pay but who work certain jobs for the work experience (these are jobs in their departments where they'll get majors so it's good resume material). Just noting -- yes, there are full pay students out there who are not at all reluctant to work, even if they don't "need" the money for tuition and room and board. They do want to gain experience and/or feel they are paying some of their own smaller expenses.


so the full pay students work for professors or in fields relevant to their futures while the work study kids serve them food in the cafeteria? I'd love to know where your kid goes so that I can cross it off of my kids' list


If the school sets up a policy where only the work study kids can get paying “official” campus jobs, that’s what happens.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 12:58     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
Anonymous wrote:My dc goes to a smaller school and wants to get a campus job this year. Turns out ALL of the jobs require resumes and cover letters, even the most mundane ones like dining services require specific cover letters!! Why is this so formal? When I was in school you picked up the phone and asked if anyone was hiring.


I safely assume it has something to do with the lower the bar, the more likely the teen kid is a bag of s*** flake who won't show up or will quit after a few weeks.

And the practice is good for when the kid needs to apply for real jobs.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 12:53     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We found that Work Study accounted for all jobs on campus. And Work Study (or a similar term) was tied to the financial aid process and financial aid awards to students. A student who was full pay but wanted to work a campus job, that was a hard find.


NP. Just noting -- absolutely first priority for any campus job belongs to work-study (financial aid) students. But it's not always true everywhere that "a student who was full pay but wanted to work a campus job, that was a hard find." DC is full pay at a small college but that doesn't mean DC is awash in cash for books, course materials, clothes, etc., and DC prefers to earn money rather than have us hand it over. So DC has made an effort to find some campus jobs that either weren't part of the financial aid/work study process or were small, one-time projects for professors etc. I'd never want DC to take work that could be done by a kid who needs financial aid, but I'm also glad DC wants to feel it's good to earn. DC also has several friends whom we know are also full pay but who work certain jobs for the work experience (these are jobs in their departments where they'll get majors so it's good resume material). Just noting -- yes, there are full pay students out there who are not at all reluctant to work, even if they don't "need" the money for tuition and room and board. They do want to gain experience and/or feel they are paying some of their own smaller expenses.


so the full pay students work for professors or in fields relevant to their futures while the work study kids serve them food in the cafeteria? I'd love to know where your kid goes so that I can cross it off of my kids' list
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 12:48     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
Anonymous wrote:We found that Work Study accounted for all jobs on campus. And Work Study (or a similar term) was tied to the financial aid process and financial aid awards to students. A student who was full pay but wanted to work a campus job, that was a hard find.


NP. Just noting -- absolutely first priority for any campus job belongs to work-study (financial aid) students. But it's not always true everywhere that "a student who was full pay but wanted to work a campus job, that was a hard find." DC is full pay at a small college but that doesn't mean DC is awash in cash for books, course materials, clothes, etc., and DC prefers to earn money rather than have us hand it over. So DC has made an effort to find some campus jobs that either weren't part of the financial aid/work study process or were small, one-time projects for professors etc. I'd never want DC to take work that could be done by a kid who needs financial aid, but I'm also glad DC wants to feel it's good to earn. DC also has several friends whom we know are also full pay but who work certain jobs for the work experience (these are jobs in their departments where they'll get majors so it's good resume material). Just noting -- yes, there are full pay students out there who are not at all reluctant to work, even if they don't "need" the money for tuition and room and board. They do want to gain experience and/or feel they are paying some of their own smaller expenses.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 12:14     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
We found that Work Study accounted for all jobs on campus. And Work Study (or a similar term) was tied to the financial aid process and financial aid awards to students. A student who was full pay but wanted to work a campus job, that was a hard find.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:31     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
Anonymous wrote:My dc goes to a smaller school and wants to get a campus job this year. Turns out ALL of the jobs require resumes and cover letters, even the most mundane ones like dining services require specific cover letters!! Why is this so formal? When I was in school you picked up the phone and asked if anyone was hiring.


HOW DARE THEY?!?!?!?!

Those are formal jobs with a hiring process, even though you seem to think it's beneath your kid.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:19     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
just send a resume, and a blank cover letter, there is a shortage of service workers so i doubt they care.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:17     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. Stop thinking about things worked back in the old days
2. It's good practice to have an updated resume and write cover letters


OP here. For internships, yes. But to be a receptionist or serve food?? My dc has 3+ years of work experience but this is silly.


Yes, even for these jobs OP.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:16     Subject: Re:What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
Academic here. Because some administrator changed the poilcy so that this is required for all jobs. It makes sense for staff/faculty hires, but they neglected to consider all the student workers would also be affected by this.

Oh well, good experience for your kid to learn how to do this now.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:16     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
Just consider it practice for getting his resume ready. Are cover letters still a thing? I hate cover letters and wish they would go away.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:11     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
Anonymous wrote:1. Stop thinking about things worked back in the old days
2. It's good practice to have an updated resume and write cover letters


OP here. For internships, yes. But to be a receptionist or serve food?? My dc has 3+ years of work experience but this is silly.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:08     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
1. Stop thinking about things worked back in the old days
2. It's good practice to have an updated resume and write cover letters
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 10:59     Subject: What the heck is going on with campus job hiring?
My dc goes to a smaller school and wants to get a campus job this year. Turns out ALL of the jobs require resumes and cover letters, even the most mundane ones like dining services require specific cover letters!! Why is this so formal? When I was in school you picked up the phone and asked if anyone was hiring.