Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This data suggests that the stated premise for the Bowser Administration’s aggressive upFLUMimg of DC neighborhoods and other recent Comp Plan changes was false and misleading.

The population shrank for two years, including the pandemic year, therefore the population will never grow?

The trend we're seeing is a very different story than the one told by the mayor.

Anonymous wrote:This data suggests that the stated premise for the Bowser Administration’s aggressive upFLUMimg of DC neighborhoods and other recent Comp Plan changes was false and misleading.

The population shrank for two years, including the pandemic year, therefore the population will never grow?

This data suggests that the stated premise for the Bowser Administration’s aggressive upFLUMimg of DC neighborhoods and other recent Comp Plan changes was false and misleading.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People leave when their kids aren't allowed to go to school.

The largest recipients of those people are in neighboring area like Bethesda, where schools were also closed.

People don't like "density". They want space and value for money.

Then why are tiny places in the city far more expensive than larger houses in the surrounding suburbs?

What people seem to want are single family houses in the District and close-in suburbs, not necessarily lots more high-end little glass box flats above national fast-casual chains and other mixed-use.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People leave when their kids aren't allowed to go to school.

The largest recipients of those people are in neighboring area like Bethesda, where schools were also closed.

People don't like "density". They want space and value for money.

*Some* people.

We are not a monolithic species.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People leave when their kids aren't allowed to go to school.

The largest recipients of those people are in neighboring area like Bethesda, where schools were also closed.

People don't like "density". They want space and value for money.

Then why are tiny places in the city far more expensive than larger houses in the surrounding suburbs?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People leave when their kids aren't allowed to go to school.

The largest recipients of those people are in neighboring area like Bethesda, where schools were also closed.

People don't like "density". They want space and value for money.

People who?

It was mostly COVID pushing people to beaches and rural areas where they could distance work and learn in a more open setting.

Most of these people will be moving back. The condos and apartments they vacated will be filled once again. Certainly the housing stock for sale is at a premium.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People leave when their kids aren't allowed to go to school.

The largest recipients of those people are in neighboring area like Bethesda, where schools were also closed.

People don't like "density". They want space and value for money.

Anonymous wrote:People leave when their kids aren't allowed to go to school.

The largest recipients of those people are in neighboring area like Bethesda, where schools were also closed.

This came up before and it is interesting how dismissive and defensive people were. The numbers were only part year, but the trend was obvious.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/981001.page

It is very important that this trend precedes COVID, because it is not a COVID restricted phenomenon. COVID just accelerated it.

The city is now confirmed to have lost a total of over 40,000 people in net domestic migration in the last two years. Note that these stats don't include births or international migration, where the city nets about 6-8,000 per year, but that is clearly not enough to offset.

It is telling that no one is changing their perspective as a result. Which means that everything people are saying about "smart growth" is not data driven, but more exactly what most people expect. A confluence of policies supporting enriching developers with a nanny state philosophy.

Unfortunately, attitudes take a long time to change. So expect the situation to get obviously worse and hit rock bottom before things can get better.

Voting with their feet

crime

People leave when their kids aren't allowed to go to school.

The Office of Revenue Analysis looks at change of address forms filed with the post office.


"The USPS data clearly shows more people moved out than in during 2020 than 2019, with moves accelerating after COVID-19 restrictions began in March 2020. In 2019, USPS recorded 11,480 net moves out of the city, while in 2020 that number increased to 29,362, an increase of 17,882 net moves out (or 2.6 times more).(1) Net moves out is the number of moves out of the city that exceed the number of moves in and is a proxy for population loss....

The data shows more people moving out of the city than into it in both 2019 and 2020, despite the decennial Census count showing strong population growth between 2010 and 2020. However, D.C.’s population increase from moves within the United States has steadily decreased the last several years, and 2018 and 2019 IRS data and 2019 and 2020 Census population estimates show D.C. lost more people to other parts of the country than it gained. The last couple years, any population increase in D.C. has been entirely driven by births and international migration, according these estimates."

https://districtmeasured.com/2021/07/08/d-c-lost-at-least-17000-more-people-during-the-pandemic-than-in-the-prior-year-according-to-usps-data-on-net-moves-at-least-9000-of-the-loss-appears-to-be-permanent/