Anonymous wrote:Sigh. I am glad you are using your SAT words. Good job!

In the meantime, keep working on your logic and reading comprehension skills. Here is my statement in its entirety:

DP. However that very small group, which claims to care about POC (emphasis on claims), is not representative of the student body as a whole. If the City Council had bothered to solicit input directly from students they would have found a great deal of support for the SROs.

Here, I'll interpret it for you. I have stated that the City Council made the choice without conferring with the students directly impacted by their decision, and if they had then they would have found support for the SROs as evidenced by the Washington Post article.

I do want to compliment you, though. You are absolutely correct though that POC can be racist. I am glad you admit it because your opposition to the SROs is routed in your own racism - and I denounce you for it.

DP. However that very small group, which claims to care about POC (emphasis on claims), is not representative of the student body as a whole. If the City Council had bothered to solicit input directly from students they would have found a great deal of support for the SROs.

Anonymous wrote:Is it really racist of me, as a POC, if I don't support a group somewhat also comprised of POC? I don't think so but good for you for trying.

Regardless the point is that the group does not represent a majority of the student and staff population.

What annoys me most about people like you and this group is that any difference of opinion is immediately discounted as "racist."

At some point you need to grow up and understand that just because you're black doesn't mean that anyone who isn't black is against you. Until you make that realization though you are even more racist than the people at which you lodge that supposed barb.

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Anonymous wrote:If you support SROs you a racist Republican and deserve no peace in this city.

Actually many progressive folks and POC in the city who actually work with the kids wanted the SROs to stay, and many students did as well. Folks let the national conversation (which is important and should continue) punish as police department that was actually doing something right. I don't know how we expect law enforcement to change if we don't acknowledge and encourage meaningful reform.
Read this article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/alexandria-school-police-removal/2021/06/23/cf167a2a-cdfb-11eb-a7f1-52b8870bef7c_story.html

Highlights...
Oscar Cortez, 16, was one of dozens of students who played on the soccer team the two police officers had started three years ago, primarily to serve the low-income Hispanic students they had hoped to reach when they applied to become SROs. Speaking in Spanish, Oscar asked the officers whether they would be leading a soccer team this summer. The officers had canceled the spring season because of the pandemic. Larios said he wasn’t sure yet.

Oscar traced a circle on the sidewalk with his toe. He had another question.

“Is it true,” he asked, still speaking in Spanish, “that you’re leaving us?”

Argueta came up with the makeshift window shade as a form of deterrence after colleagues complained about the constant crowd of students gathering outside. He also put up a sign warning, “NO STUDENTS ALLOWED WITHOUT A PASS,” and tacked on eight exclamation marks.

But kids kept showing up, flashing scribbled-on scraps of paper they insisted bore their teachers’ signatures.

Most just wanted to talk. But, over the course of a typical year, a handful came to report stolen Chromebooks or cellphones. Larios and Argueta would review security footage to identify the culprit, then hand the case to an administrator, because SROs do not get involved in disciplinary matters.

Nor do they play a role in student suspensions, said Peter Balas, the principal of T.C. Williams. In fact, most functions that people assume school police perform — such as breaking up fights — actually fall under the purview of administrators or the separate security force that Alexandria employs. SROs take action only when a student engages in criminal activity, Balas said, such as threatening peers with a weapon or bringing drugs or alcohol to school.

This happens rarely: Alexandria’s five SROs — the three others are stationed in the system’s three middle schools — made six arrests in the 2019-20 school year. These kinds of interactions took up a small fraction of Larios and Argueta’s time at school, they said.

Balas, the principal, said he has received only two complaints about the officers during their tenure at T.C., neither from students. Both came from parents who disliked the way Larios and Argueta handled criminal incidents involving their children. Citing the families’ desire for privacy, Balas would not elaborate.

Larios and Argueta said they used to hear occasional mutterings of “F--- the police” as students walked into school, back when they started. But those faded away quickly, they said.

There also were, however, an organized group of students who advocated for the removal of the SROs based on their personal experiences / perceptions so this was not just imposing a national issue on local decision making.

Those "personal experience" were not direct contact with the SROs. They reported a vague feeling of being "watched". Meanwhile, the students that actually had direct contact with the SROs--as described in the WaPo article, had only positive things to say about their experiences.
I don't understand why people that didn't even have direct contact with the SROs--and admitted as much--were given more weight than the students who DID have contact with the SROs, and had positive experiences.
Those kids speaking against SROs were also being directed by an organization that was pushing its own agenda, again taking cues from the national discussion, without actually considering the specific implementation of the SRO program in Alexandria.
The kids most directly impacted by the SROs were a very marginalized and at-risk group--recent immigrants. These students are the ones most at-risk, and they were the ones that had the positive experiences with the SROs (visiting their office, being on the soccer team). The local advocacy group--which claims to care about POC--didn't care about these kids, because it didn't fit their narrative.

The students who spoke against the SROs were students at ACPS schools with SROs. You are being disingenuous in your attempt to claim that their perspectives lack probative value. The fact that those students chose to associate with a particular organization does not negate their perspectives. I acknowledge that you are correct that other students had different views but it is untrue that all students had the same perspective on the SRO program.

DP. However that very small group, which claims to care about POC (emphasis on claims), is not representative of the student body as a whole. If the City Council had bothered to solicit input directly from students they would have found a great deal of support for the SROs.

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Anonymous wrote:If you support SROs you a racist Republican and deserve no peace in this city.

Actually many progressive folks and POC in the city who actually work with the kids wanted the SROs to stay, and many students did as well. Folks let the national conversation (which is important and should continue) punish as police department that was actually doing something right. I don't know how we expect law enforcement to change if we don't acknowledge and encourage meaningful reform.
Read this article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/alexandria-school-police-removal/2021/06/23/cf167a2a-cdfb-11eb-a7f1-52b8870bef7c_story.html

Highlights...
Oscar Cortez, 16, was one of dozens of students who played on the soccer team the two police officers had started three years ago, primarily to serve the low-income Hispanic students they had hoped to reach when they applied to become SROs. Speaking in Spanish, Oscar asked the officers whether they would be leading a soccer team this summer. The officers had canceled the spring season because of the pandemic. Larios said he wasn’t sure yet.

Oscar traced a circle on the sidewalk with his toe. He had another question.

“Is it true,” he asked, still speaking in Spanish, “that you’re leaving us?”

Argueta came up with the makeshift window shade as a form of deterrence after colleagues complained about the constant crowd of students gathering outside. He also put up a sign warning, “NO STUDENTS ALLOWED WITHOUT A PASS,” and tacked on eight exclamation marks.

But kids kept showing up, flashing scribbled-on scraps of paper they insisted bore their teachers’ signatures.

Most just wanted to talk. But, over the course of a typical year, a handful came to report stolen Chromebooks or cellphones. Larios and Argueta would review security footage to identify the culprit, then hand the case to an administrator, because SROs do not get involved in disciplinary matters.

Nor do they play a role in student suspensions, said Peter Balas, the principal of T.C. Williams. In fact, most functions that people assume school police perform — such as breaking up fights — actually fall under the purview of administrators or the separate security force that Alexandria employs. SROs take action only when a student engages in criminal activity, Balas said, such as threatening peers with a weapon or bringing drugs or alcohol to school.

This happens rarely: Alexandria’s five SROs — the three others are stationed in the system’s three middle schools — made six arrests in the 2019-20 school year. These kinds of interactions took up a small fraction of Larios and Argueta’s time at school, they said.

Balas, the principal, said he has received only two complaints about the officers during their tenure at T.C., neither from students. Both came from parents who disliked the way Larios and Argueta handled criminal incidents involving their children. Citing the families’ desire for privacy, Balas would not elaborate.

Larios and Argueta said they used to hear occasional mutterings of “F--- the police” as students walked into school, back when they started. But those faded away quickly, they said.

There also were, however, an organized group of students who advocated for the removal of the SROs based on their personal experiences / perceptions so this was not just imposing a national issue on local decision making.

Those "personal experience" were not direct contact with the SROs. They reported a vague feeling of being "watched". Meanwhile, the students that actually had direct contact with the SROs--as described in the WaPo article, had only positive things to say about their experiences.
I don't understand why people that didn't even have direct contact with the SROs--and admitted as much--were given more weight than the students who DID have contact with the SROs, and had positive experiences.
Those kids speaking against SROs were also being directed by an organization that was pushing its own agenda, again taking cues from the national discussion, without actually considering the specific implementation of the SRO program in Alexandria.
The kids most directly impacted by the SROs were a very marginalized and at-risk group--recent immigrants. These students are the ones most at-risk, and they were the ones that had the positive experiences with the SROs (visiting their office, being on the soccer team). The local advocacy group--which claims to care about POC--didn't care about these kids, because it didn't fit their narrative.

The students who spoke against the SROs were students at ACPS schools with SROs. You are being disingenuous in your attempt to claim that their perspectives lack probative value. The fact that those students chose to associate with a particular organization does not negate their perspectives. I acknowledge that you are correct that other students had different views but it is untrue that all students had the same perspective on the SRO program.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you support SROs you a racist Republican and deserve no peace in this city.

Actually many progressive folks and POC in the city who actually work with the kids wanted the SROs to stay, and many students did as well. Folks let the national conversation (which is important and should continue) punish as police department that was actually doing something right. I don't know how we expect law enforcement to change if we don't acknowledge and encourage meaningful reform.
Read this article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/alexandria-school-police-removal/2021/06/23/cf167a2a-cdfb-11eb-a7f1-52b8870bef7c_story.html

Highlights...
Oscar Cortez, 16, was one of dozens of students who played on the soccer team the two police officers had started three years ago, primarily to serve the low-income Hispanic students they had hoped to reach when they applied to become SROs. Speaking in Spanish, Oscar asked the officers whether they would be leading a soccer team this summer. The officers had canceled the spring season because of the pandemic. Larios said he wasn’t sure yet.

Oscar traced a circle on the sidewalk with his toe. He had another question.

“Is it true,” he asked, still speaking in Spanish, “that you’re leaving us?”

Argueta came up with the makeshift window shade as a form of deterrence after colleagues complained about the constant crowd of students gathering outside. He also put up a sign warning, “NO STUDENTS ALLOWED WITHOUT A PASS,” and tacked on eight exclamation marks.

But kids kept showing up, flashing scribbled-on scraps of paper they insisted bore their teachers’ signatures.

Most just wanted to talk. But, over the course of a typical year, a handful came to report stolen Chromebooks or cellphones. Larios and Argueta would review security footage to identify the culprit, then hand the case to an administrator, because SROs do not get involved in disciplinary matters.

Nor do they play a role in student suspensions, said Peter Balas, the principal of T.C. Williams. In fact, most functions that people assume school police perform — such as breaking up fights — actually fall under the purview of administrators or the separate security force that Alexandria employs. SROs take action only when a student engages in criminal activity, Balas said, such as threatening peers with a weapon or bringing drugs or alcohol to school.

This happens rarely: Alexandria’s five SROs — the three others are stationed in the system’s three middle schools — made six arrests in the 2019-20 school year. These kinds of interactions took up a small fraction of Larios and Argueta’s time at school, they said.

Balas, the principal, said he has received only two complaints about the officers during their tenure at T.C., neither from students. Both came from parents who disliked the way Larios and Argueta handled criminal incidents involving their children. Citing the families’ desire for privacy, Balas would not elaborate.

Larios and Argueta said they used to hear occasional mutterings of “F--- the police” as students walked into school, back when they started. But those faded away quickly, they said.

There also were, however, an organized group of students who advocated for the removal of the SROs based on their personal experiences / perceptions so this was not just imposing a national issue on local decision making.

Those "personal experience" were not direct contact with the SROs. They reported a vague feeling of being "watched". Meanwhile, the students that actually had direct contact with the SROs--as described in the WaPo article, had only positive things to say about their experiences.
I don't understand why people that didn't even have direct contact with the SROs--and admitted as much--were given more weight than the students who DID have contact with the SROs, and had positive experiences.
Those kids speaking against SROs were also being directed by an organization that was pushing its own agenda, again taking cues from the national discussion, without actually considering the specific implementation of the SRO program in Alexandria.
The kids most directly impacted by the SROs were a very marginalized and at-risk group--recent immigrants. These students are the ones most at-risk, and they were the ones that had the positive experiences with the SROs (visiting their office, being on the soccer team). The local advocacy group--which claims to care about POC--didn't care about these kids, because it didn't fit their narrative.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you support SROs you a racist Republican and deserve no peace in this city.

Actually many progressive folks and POC in the city who actually work with the kids wanted the SROs to stay, and many students did as well. Folks let the national conversation (which is important and should continue) punish as police department that was actually doing something right. I don't know how we expect law enforcement to change if we don't acknowledge and encourage meaningful reform.
Read this article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/alexandria-school-police-removal/2021/06/23/cf167a2a-cdfb-11eb-a7f1-52b8870bef7c_story.html

Highlights...
Oscar Cortez, 16, was one of dozens of students who played on the soccer team the two police officers had started three years ago, primarily to serve the low-income Hispanic students they had hoped to reach when they applied to become SROs. Speaking in Spanish, Oscar asked the officers whether they would be leading a soccer team this summer. The officers had canceled the spring season because of the pandemic. Larios said he wasn’t sure yet.

Oscar traced a circle on the sidewalk with his toe. He had another question.

“Is it true,” he asked, still speaking in Spanish, “that you’re leaving us?”

Argueta came up with the makeshift window shade as a form of deterrence after colleagues complained about the constant crowd of students gathering outside. He also put up a sign warning, “NO STUDENTS ALLOWED WITHOUT A PASS,” and tacked on eight exclamation marks.

But kids kept showing up, flashing scribbled-on scraps of paper they insisted bore their teachers’ signatures.

Most just wanted to talk. But, over the course of a typical year, a handful came to report stolen Chromebooks or cellphones. Larios and Argueta would review security footage to identify the culprit, then hand the case to an administrator, because SROs do not get involved in disciplinary matters.

Nor do they play a role in student suspensions, said Peter Balas, the principal of T.C. Williams. In fact, most functions that people assume school police perform — such as breaking up fights — actually fall under the purview of administrators or the separate security force that Alexandria employs. SROs take action only when a student engages in criminal activity, Balas said, such as threatening peers with a weapon or bringing drugs or alcohol to school.

This happens rarely: Alexandria’s five SROs — the three others are stationed in the system’s three middle schools — made six arrests in the 2019-20 school year. These kinds of interactions took up a small fraction of Larios and Argueta’s time at school, they said.

Balas, the principal, said he has received only two complaints about the officers during their tenure at T.C., neither from students. Both came from parents who disliked the way Larios and Argueta handled criminal incidents involving their children. Citing the families’ desire for privacy, Balas would not elaborate.

Larios and Argueta said they used to hear occasional mutterings of “F--- the police” as students walked into school, back when they started. But those faded away quickly, they said.

There also were, however, an organized group of students who advocated for the removal of the SROs based on their personal experiences / perceptions so this was not just imposing a national issue on local decision making.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you support SROs you a racist Republican and deserve no peace in this city.

Actually many progressive folks and POC in the city who actually work with the kids wanted the SROs to stay, and many students did as well. Folks let the national conversation (which is important and should continue) punish as police department that was actually doing something right. I don't know how we expect law enforcement to change if we don't acknowledge and encourage meaningful reform.
Read this article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/alexandria-school-police-removal/2021/06/23/cf167a2a-cdfb-11eb-a7f1-52b8870bef7c_story.html

Highlights...
Oscar Cortez, 16, was one of dozens of students who played on the soccer team the two police officers had started three years ago, primarily to serve the low-income Hispanic students they had hoped to reach when they applied to become SROs. Speaking in Spanish, Oscar asked the officers whether they would be leading a soccer team this summer. The officers had canceled the spring season because of the pandemic. Larios said he wasn’t sure yet.

Oscar traced a circle on the sidewalk with his toe. He had another question.

“Is it true,” he asked, still speaking in Spanish, “that you’re leaving us?”

Argueta came up with the makeshift window shade as a form of deterrence after colleagues complained about the constant crowd of students gathering outside. He also put up a sign warning, “NO STUDENTS ALLOWED WITHOUT A PASS,” and tacked on eight exclamation marks.

But kids kept showing up, flashing scribbled-on scraps of paper they insisted bore their teachers’ signatures.

Most just wanted to talk. But, over the course of a typical year, a handful came to report stolen Chromebooks or cellphones. Larios and Argueta would review security footage to identify the culprit, then hand the case to an administrator, because SROs do not get involved in disciplinary matters.

Nor do they play a role in student suspensions, said Peter Balas, the principal of T.C. Williams. In fact, most functions that people assume school police perform — such as breaking up fights — actually fall under the purview of administrators or the separate security force that Alexandria employs. SROs take action only when a student engages in criminal activity, Balas said, such as threatening peers with a weapon or bringing drugs or alcohol to school.

This happens rarely: Alexandria’s five SROs — the three others are stationed in the system’s three middle schools — made six arrests in the 2019-20 school year. These kinds of interactions took up a small fraction of Larios and Argueta’s time at school, they said.

Balas, the principal, said he has received only two complaints about the officers during their tenure at T.C., neither from students. Both came from parents who disliked the way Larios and Argueta handled criminal incidents involving their children. Citing the families’ desire for privacy, Balas would not elaborate.

Larios and Argueta said they used to hear occasional mutterings of “F--- the police” as students walked into school, back when they started. But those faded away quickly, they said.

Anonymous wrote:If you support SROs you a racist Republican and deserve no peace in this city.

Anonymous wrote:I couldn’t watch the city council meeting. Can anyone fill me in on the discussion about the school resource officers? Only Amy Jackson voted to reconsider the funds for ACPS? Can anyone explain to me why ACPS can’t fully find the SROs on their own without the city money? Also, who are the school board members who voted against SRIs in the fall and are they running again?

Anonymous wrote:If you support SROs you a racist Republican and deserve no peace in this city.

Anonymous wrote:If you support SROs you a racist Republican and deserve no peace in this city.