Anonymous
Post 06/30/2021 15:32     Subject: Re:Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Anonymous wrote:Wow it's like Big Oil is posting here.

Here's brand new fully-loaded 2021 Chevy Bolts for $32-33k:
https://www.koonschevybuickgmc.com/new-inventory/index.htm?search=&model=Bolt+EV&year=2021&gvBodyStyle=Wagon

Then there's both federal and MD tax credits for buying an EV, and MD/Pepco credits to install an EV charger.

Civics are $25k, but you'll be paying gas, oil changes, spark plugs, etc. Lots of moving parts. Also no visits to the gas station ever.

We own a 2014 electric car and it's been in for service once, to rotate the tires. No other service needed.



wow, they really can't sell those things. 10k off the top for a new car now seems absurd
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2021 15:26     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Electric vehicle positive: you can charge overnight and always be “full” in the morning.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2021 15:23     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Anonymous wrote:Prius Prime LE

With the EV fully charged you get 80 mpg. Plus you can use HOV all the time. Might check your kids feel comfortable in the backseat, can be a bit cramped.


You can use HOV all the time with any electric car in MD. Note it applies to MD HOV lanes only, not other states.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2021 14:21     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Prius Prime LE
With federal tax rebate of 4500, MD tax credit, plus credit to help you install a charger at home, will be close to 23k.

With the EV fully charged you get 80 mpg. Plus you can use HOV all the time. Might check your kids feel comfortable in the backseat, can be a bit cramped.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2021 13:55     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Buy a Subaru Forester. Good gas mileage and retains its value.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2021 13:54     Subject: Re:Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Wow it's like Big Oil is posting here.

Here's brand new fully-loaded 2021 Chevy Bolts for $32-33k:
https://www.koonschevybuickgmc.com/new-inventory/index.htm?search=&model=Bolt+EV&year=2021&gvBodyStyle=Wagon

Then there's both federal and MD tax credits for buying an EV, and MD/Pepco credits to install an EV charger.

Civics are $25k, but you'll be paying gas, oil changes, spark plugs, etc. Lots of moving parts. Also no visits to the gas station ever.

We own a 2014 electric car and it's been in for service once, to rotate the tires. No other service needed.

Anonymous
Post 06/30/2021 13:46     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Anonymous wrote:A Kia niro EV is 40k a Honda Civic is 25 extremely well equipped. You are never making that difference back


A used Niro (or a used Leaf or Bolt) would be cheaper, though, and if you're not driving huge amounts every day, then the battery size would be fine. The Leaf gets between 150 and 220 miles, which seems just fine for a commuter car.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2021 07:35     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A Kia niro EV is 40k a Honda Civic is 25 extremely well equipped. You are never making that difference back


You aren’t very credible if you quote the price of the EV without acknowledging the $7,500 tax credit it gets. Right there you’ve cut the difference between the two in half, and that’s before significantly cheaper fuel and maintenance for the EV.

I don’t know which one will end up being cheape but the difference won’t be great (and the EV would be a lot more fun probably).


+1
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2021 07:34     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A Kia niro EV is 40k a Honda Civic is 25 extremely well equipped. You are never making that difference back


You aren’t very credible if you quote the price of the EV without acknowledging the $7,500 tax credit it gets. Right there you’ve cut the difference between the two in half, and that’s before significantly cheaper fuel and maintenance for the EV.

I don’t know which one will end up being cheape but the difference won’t be great (and the EV would be a lot more fun probably).


don't forget resale. A civic or corolla holds value. An electric kia or Nissan won't. And if you keep it long term, the battery replacement is going to erase the maintenance savings. Buy an electric because they are good for the environment, because they are fun, or because you don't like gas stations. Don't buy one to save money
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2021 07:32     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Anonymous wrote:EV should be lifecycle more cost effective. But a Leaf, not a Tesla.


Never buy a Nissan. Ever. Their gas cars have terrible CVT transmissions and their electric cars have very bad batteries.
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/09/29/nissans-long-strange-trip-with-leaf-batteries/
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 23:22     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Anonymous wrote:A Kia niro EV is 40k a Honda Civic is 25 extremely well equipped. You are never making that difference back


You aren’t very credible if you quote the price of the EV without acknowledging the $7,500 tax credit it gets. Right there you’ve cut the difference between the two in half, and that’s before significantly cheaper fuel and maintenance for the EV.

I don’t know which one will end up being cheape but the difference won’t be great (and the EV would be a lot more fun probably).
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 23:15     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Anonymous wrote:A Kia niro EV is 40k a Honda Civic is 25 extremely well equipped. You are never making that difference back


So what’s the suggestion here? I’m following this thread as well.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 21:51     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

A Kia niro EV is 40k a Honda Civic is 25 extremely well equipped. You are never making that difference back
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 21:23     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

EV should be lifecycle more cost effective. But a Leaf, not a Tesla.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2021 21:13     Subject: Commuter car -- gas or electric?

Our oldest child will be attending a private school in MoCo in the fall and we will be traveling from Upper Marlboro. Both our our current vehicles take premium gas so we are considering an alternative. Should be get a used Honda or Toyota that takes regular gas or an EV? Looking for a budget friendly option. Thanks!