Anonymous
06/30/2021 18:43
Subject: s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Socialism - which frankly I would like to see a bit more of - does not work well on a local level. You just drive out the rich and attract more poor. Socialist policies (like Medicare and social security) work best at the country level.
Anonymous
06/30/2021 15:29
Subject: s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I’m French, have lived in many countries, seen many socialist parties in government, and I concur.
The USA actually has no socialist or communist parties. At most it has “slightly left” candidates. Most candidates are center, center-right, right or extreme-right wing.
Actually, this just shows how skewed your worldview is.
Yes, I expected that sort of ignorant reply. Actually, it's you who are in the minority. Many countries around the world have the full spectrum of political parties. The USA is the democracy with the narrowest range of options, and it skews right.
Anonymous
06/30/2021 15:26
Subject: s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Anonymous wrote:
I’m French, have lived in many countries, seen many socialist parties in government, and I concur.
The USA actually has no socialist or communist parties. At most it has “slightly left” candidates. Most candidates are center, center-right, right or extreme-right wing.
Actually, this just shows how skewed your worldview is.
Anonymous
06/30/2021 13:29
Subject: s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Anonymous wrote:Elrich has actually done better than I thought he would. While I do think we need someone more business oriented for a while, and didn't vote for Elrich in the first place, MoCo is definitely not socialist. It's like the people whining don't even know what a socialist is.
By the strictest definition, it's impossible for a local entity like a county to actually BE socialist. However, with every extra tax dollar collected from one person and given to someone the government deems to "need it more," we get one step closer to being socialist.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 17:22
Subject: Re:s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's just semantics, who cares what they are. Elrich and Moco have not implemented or proposed good policies for economic growth and prosperity, so they have to go. Same for anyone running from the county council. Elect somebody with new ideas please.
This!
Yup. In fact, I would actually be more worried about a Riemer because it’s just bad ideas after bad ideas from him. Elrich is stasis. Riemer would do something really stupid.
We need some serious adults in charge.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 15:12
Subject: s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Elrich has actually done better than I thought he would. While I do think we need someone more business oriented for a while, and didn't vote for Elrich in the first place, MoCo is definitely not socialist. It's like the people whining don't even know what a socialist is.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 15:09
Subject: Re:s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's just semantics, who cares what they are. Elrich and Moco have not implemented or proposed good policies for economic growth and prosperity, so they have to go. Same for anyone running from the county council. Elect somebody with new ideas please.
This!
Socialist or not, it's clear he is a mistake.
And whether or not he aligns perfectly to the tenets of socialism, it is worth noting that he considers himself one. Maybe he's just an incompetent one
Anonymous
06/28/2021 14:52
Subject: Re:s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Anonymous wrote:It's just semantics, who cares what they are. Elrich and Moco have not implemented or proposed good policies for economic growth and prosperity, so they have to go. Same for anyone running from the county council. Elect somebody with new ideas please.
This!
Anonymous
06/28/2021 14:15
Subject: Re:s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
It's just semantics, who cares what they are. Elrich and Moco have not implemented or proposed good policies for economic growth and prosperity, so they have to go. Same for anyone running from the county council. Elect somebody with new ideas please.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 14:07
Subject: s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
He’s not a Socialist. He’s a Stalinist.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 12:56
Subject: s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Anonymous wrote:In response to the types of threads that emerge every few weeks whining about "socialism" and how Marc Elrich is the next Lenin or Fidel Castro...
From an ACTUAL SOCIALIST,
Just stop.
I WISH Elrich was the Socialist you all made him out to be. He has been incredibly disappointing and I voted for him. I plan to not vote this time around.
Montgomery County elected officials are center-right compared to actual elected Socialists around the world. Marc Elrich comes closest to what a moderate social democratic official would be in northern europe, but he doesn't even govern as such.
He said he supported rent control in the county but has taken zero action on proposing or enforcing it.
He expressed no interest in the social housing proposals brought by two of the state delegates
He supports Israel and gave money to an Israeli defense contractor to operate here
He made cuts to services during the pandemic instead of raising taxes on the wealthy
And no, Riemer is not to the left of Elrich, he's more pro-corporate, he's just good at sounding woke and using buzzwords about bikelanes and craft beer and other bourgeois things. Neoliberal technocrat all around.
I want to see someone who will actually take steps to seize more from the ultra wealthy and build up more social programs and democratize more industries. A county executive who just says some nice things about unions and workers does not a socialist make. We need someone who will actually put up a fight instead of break promises and blame others.
Elrich was (still is?) a member of DSA. MoCo has amazing give-away programs both direct and indirect (through the numerous non-profits it funds). A good barometer of whether they are generous enough or not is whether the poor flock here from other places. Based on the swelling numbers of illegal aliens in MoCo, our programs here are probably too generous.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 12:44
Subject: s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Elrich is a bad socialist and a bad capitalist. Because both groups would’ve actually created jobs in this county. He’s created none.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 11:48
Subject: s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
I’m French, have lived in many countries, seen many socialist parties in government, and I concur.
The USA actually has no socialist or communist parties. At most it has “slightly left” candidates. Most candidates are center, center-right, right or extreme-right wing.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 11:36
Subject: Re:s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
Elrich may not be a socialist, but I did not and will not vote for him in the primary or general. Life long Democrat here.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 11:31
Subject: s/o Elrich & MoCo are Not Socialist
In response to the types of threads that emerge every few weeks whining about "socialism" and how Marc Elrich is the next Lenin or Fidel Castro...
From an ACTUAL SOCIALIST,
Just stop.
I WISH Elrich was the Socialist you all made him out to be. He has been incredibly disappointing and I voted for him. I plan to not vote this time around.
Montgomery County elected officials are center-right compared to actual elected Socialists around the world. Marc Elrich comes closest to what a moderate social democratic official would be in northern europe, but he doesn't even govern as such.
He said he supported rent control in the county but has taken zero action on proposing or enforcing it.
He expressed no interest in the social housing proposals brought by two of the state delegates
He supports Israel and gave money to an Israeli defense contractor to operate here
He made cuts to services during the pandemic instead of raising taxes on the wealthy
And no, Riemer is not to the left of Elrich, he's more pro-corporate, he's just good at sounding woke and using buzzwords about bikelanes and craft beer and other bourgeois things. Neoliberal technocrat all around.
I want to see someone who will actually take steps to seize more from the ultra wealthy and build up more social programs and democratize more industries. A county executive who just says some nice things about unions and workers does not a socialist make. We need someone who will actually put up a fight instead of break promises and blame others.
From an ACTUAL SOCIALIST,
Just stop.
I WISH Elrich was the Socialist you all made him out to be. He has been incredibly disappointing and I voted for him. I plan to not vote this time around.
Montgomery County elected officials are center-right compared to actual elected Socialists around the world. Marc Elrich comes closest to what a moderate social democratic official would be in northern europe, but he doesn't even govern as such.
He said he supported rent control in the county but has taken zero action on proposing or enforcing it.
He expressed no interest in the social housing proposals brought by two of the state delegates
He supports Israel and gave money to an Israeli defense contractor to operate here
He made cuts to services during the pandemic instead of raising taxes on the wealthy
And no, Riemer is not to the left of Elrich, he's more pro-corporate, he's just good at sounding woke and using buzzwords about bikelanes and craft beer and other bourgeois things. Neoliberal technocrat all around.
I want to see someone who will actually take steps to seize more from the ultra wealthy and build up more social programs and democratize more industries. A county executive who just says some nice things about unions and workers does not a socialist make. We need someone who will actually put up a fight instead of break promises and blame others.