Anonymous
06/10/2021 19:36
Subject: Re:How is this fair?
This is part of what you're paying for. College counselors have relationships with admissions officers - sometimes because they used to work at the college.
It happens in public schools too, but more often in privates.
It happens in public schools too, but more often in privates.
Anonymous
06/10/2021 19:36
Subject: How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was just poking around some of the private school websites in my area (Tri State, not DC) and one of the websites, in their college counselling section, specifically says: "Throughout February and March, we continue to counsel and support seniors as their deans. We also reach out to colleges to check on applications and to advocate on behalf of students."
How the heck is this fair? Am I just totally naive and this happens everywhere? No way did my very middle class public school where guidance counselors had 100s of students have these counselors reach out to advocate on behalf of individual students. I suppose this is what you pay for at a private school? Idk, it just seems wildly unfair to me. I'll probably get flamed for being naive but the fact that they publish this so directly on their website surprises me.
My public high school in Westchester did this (it wasn't Rye, though).
+1. I went to a middle class/upper middle class public school. The valedictorian in the year above me was dumb (lol), only applied to top schools, and got rejected everywhere. Our principal made some calls and he matriculated to Princeton the next year.
Anonymous
06/10/2021 19:21
Subject: How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:I was just poking around some of the private school websites in my area (Tri State, not DC) and one of the websites, in their college counselling section, specifically says: "Throughout February and March, we continue to counsel and support seniors as their deans. We also reach out to colleges to check on applications and to advocate on behalf of students."
How the heck is this fair? Am I just totally naive and this happens everywhere? No way did my very middle class public school where guidance counselors had 100s of students have these counselors reach out to advocate on behalf of individual students. I suppose this is what you pay for at a private school? Idk, it just seems wildly unfair to me. I'll probably get flamed for being naive but the fact that they publish this so directly on their website surprises me.
My public high school in Westchester did this (it wasn't Rye, though).
Anonymous
06/10/2021 19:19
Subject: How is this fair?
It's a marketing thing, come to our school this is what wedo.... all marketing
Anonymous
06/10/2021 19:16
Subject: How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:In all seriousness— it’s time to disabuse yourself of the nation college admissions is fair. It isn’t. And this is honestly less offensive than legacy and athletics as hooks.
If you get outraged every time the admissions process is unfair, you’ll have a stroke.
+1. I grew up in a small Midwestern town where no one ever applied to top colleges, no matter how good their grades and test scores. Elite schools have always been for the elites of the country (not based on merit but on SES).
Anonymous
06/10/2021 19:16
Subject: How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:OP don't worry. What they really mean is they call to see if all the student's paperwork is in. Not that they have any real pull in the admissions office.
They need to make sure all the private school parents feel like they are getting something for their money. LOL
No public college cares about private schools over public.
Private colleges could care less as well. Now if Daddy or Mommy is donating a building well...
Lol. I looked up this quote. It's from Rye Country Day School in Rye, NY. Take a look at that matriculation list and tell me the counselors are not calling up colleges to get these kids in.
Anonymous
06/10/2021 19:14
Subject: How is this fair?
What do you think people are paying for?
Anonymous
06/10/2021 19:13
Subject: How is this fair?
In all seriousness— it’s time to disabuse yourself of the nation college admissions is fair. It isn’t. And this is honestly less offensive than legacy and athletics as hooks.
If you get outraged every time the admissions process is unfair, you’ll have a stroke.
If you get outraged every time the admissions process is unfair, you’ll have a stroke.
Anonymous
06/10/2021 19:07
Subject: How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:OP don't worry. What they really mean is they call to see if all the student's paperwork is in. Not that they have any real pull in the admissions office.
They need to make sure all the private school parents feel like they are getting something for their money. LOL
No public college cares about private schools over public.
Private colleges could care less as well. Now if Daddy or Mommy is donating a building well...
This is simply not true. Many top private schools have all but a quota with top colleges, and are in communication with the colleges about the best fits from their student bodies.
Anonymous
06/10/2021 18:55
Subject: How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:OP don't worry. What they really mean is they call to see if all the student's paperwork is in. Not that they have any real pull in the admissions office.
They need to make sure all the private school parents feel like they are getting something for their money. LOL
No public college cares about private schools over public.
Private colleges could care less as well. Now if Daddy or Mommy is donating a building well...
Foolish! Keep believing that... Do you think 20-year relationships of sending a certain kind of student who takes certain classes happens year after year by osmosis??? Private schools advocate for their students and build relationships over time with admissions. Sorry, you think private school is a waste of $$$.
Anonymous
06/10/2021 18:52
Subject: How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:I was just poking around some of the private school websites in my area (Tri State, not DC) and one of the websites, in their college counselling section, specifically says: "Throughout February and March, we continue to counsel and support seniors as their deans. We also reach out to colleges to check on applications and to advocate on behalf of students."
How the heck is this fair? Am I just totally naive and this happens everywhere? No way did my very middle class public school where guidance counselors had 100s of students have these counselors reach out to advocate on behalf of individual students. I suppose this is what you pay for at a private school? Idk, it just seems wildly unfair to me. I'll probably get flamed for being naive but the fact that they publish this so directly on their website surprises me.
Of course, that occurs. It's been like that forever. What rock did you crawl out from under? That is part of the college placement process and mentioned in every coming-of-age book of private school seniors or even featured in TV shows. Its the bare minimum of expectation. Schools are notified before kids and parents because they are part of the process.
Anonymous
06/10/2021 18:51
Subject: How is this fair?
OP don't worry. What they really mean is they call to see if all the student's paperwork is in. Not that they have any real pull in the admissions office.
They need to make sure all the private school parents feel like they are getting something for their money. LOL
No public college cares about private schools over public.
Private colleges could care less as well. Now if Daddy or Mommy is donating a building well...
They need to make sure all the private school parents feel like they are getting something for their money. LOL
No public college cares about private schools over public.
Private colleges could care less as well. Now if Daddy or Mommy is donating a building well...
Anonymous
06/10/2021 18:50
Subject: Re:How is this fair?
I work for a non profit that helps low income students apply to college. Our counselors do this every year.
Anonymous
06/10/2021 18:46
Subject: How is this fair?
It’s not fair. It’s called privilege.
Anonymous
06/10/2021 18:39
Subject: How is this fair?
I was just poking around some of the private school websites in my area (Tri State, not DC) and one of the websites, in their college counselling section, specifically says: "Throughout February and March, we continue to counsel and support seniors as their deans. We also reach out to colleges to check on applications and to advocate on behalf of students."
How the heck is this fair? Am I just totally naive and this happens everywhere? No way did my very middle class public school where guidance counselors had 100s of students have these counselors reach out to advocate on behalf of individual students. I suppose this is what you pay for at a private school? Idk, it just seems wildly unfair to me. I'll probably get flamed for being naive but the fact that they publish this so directly on their website surprises me.
How the heck is this fair? Am I just totally naive and this happens everywhere? No way did my very middle class public school where guidance counselors had 100s of students have these counselors reach out to advocate on behalf of individual students. I suppose this is what you pay for at a private school? Idk, it just seems wildly unfair to me. I'll probably get flamed for being naive but the fact that they publish this so directly on their website surprises me.