Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 11:41     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

How well does your child read?
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 11:39     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

I'm not commenting on the extent to which this particular test reflected your child's IQ, but I think it's important to note that schooling doesn't really increase a child's IQ. IQ is about 75% hereditary and while the other 25% variance isn't really explained and probably attributable to 100 different things, schooling is probably just a couple percent of it
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 11:36     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what can be done with low scores (5-15%). Does the school provide extra support like summer school to help raise them?


This isn’t a test that prompts supports or efforts to raise.


I would look at my kids report card and other measures to see if there seems to be something going on. If the Teachers have not expressed concerns to you and their grades are fine, not a lot of 1s or 2s (sorry we are in FCPS, I don't know if the grading is the same in your district) I wold not be concerned. If your child's grades are on the lower end, I would contact the school and ask for a conference to try and figure out what is happening.

More likely then not, your kid didn't take the test seriously but it could also be something else. Look at the body of evidence and decide your path forward.


Just go get a WISC privately if you can afford it. It's better than the Cogat and as I recall it was about $400.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 09:01     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what can be done with low scores (5-15%). Does the school provide extra support like summer school to help raise them?


This isn’t a test that prompts supports or efforts to raise.


I would look at my kids report card and other measures to see if there seems to be something going on. If the Teachers have not expressed concerns to you and their grades are fine, not a lot of 1s or 2s (sorry we are in FCPS, I don't know if the grading is the same in your district) I wold not be concerned. If your child's grades are on the lower end, I would contact the school and ask for a conference to try and figure out what is happening.

More likely then not, your kid didn't take the test seriously but it could also be something else. Look at the body of evidence and decide your path forward.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 08:59     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

OP: This year's CoGAT wasn't normal. They shortened an already short test for example. It's supposed to be "standardized" in method given but there's nothing "standard" about this year.

If your child had a 5% IQ, you would absolutely know it. The score should be completely disregarded.

If you have any questions at all, ask her teacher. I bet teacher will say same.

Don't worry about this OP.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 06:56     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what can be done with low scores (5-15%). Does the school provide extra support like summer school to help raise them?


This isn’t a test that prompts supports or efforts to raise.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2021 06:50     Subject: Re:Extremely low cogat scores

One thing to remember is that the COGAT, especially this year’s quick screener tool that gives one score, is meant for the purpose of identifying students who might be gifted. It is not a tool used to identify deficits or disabilities. It wouldn’t be used for special education identification. So while it has a purpose if your child does well, if your child does not do well on this particular test but they do well in school, pass their SOLs, and no concerns, don’t worry. It doesn’t pick up every kid who is gifted even.

And just as an aside or personal story I have one kid now in HS. In 2nd his NNAT was completely average 50th percentile. In 5th grade he was 99th in the math side and was then identified for math. My daughter now in MS was 50th on the COGAT and also has a score exactly in the 50th, and I already had private scores from her with individual WISC testing that showed a number of areas over 120 and a GAI of 121 (low processing). She didn’t qualify this year.
Oh well.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 21:28     Subject: Re:Extremely low cogat scores

I had a friend whose child had an unexpected low score and when they look at the answers he had bubbled in a pattern. (Back when they did answers on bubble answer sheets)

A
B
C
D
E
D
C
B
A

And so on down the page.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 20:47     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

Anonymous wrote:CogAT can be really challenging fornaverage ability kids who have attention issues. The test is administered in a group and the kids havevto wait at the group’s pace to have each question read. That can be brutally boring.

Schools will not remediate an ability test. But if it’s FCPS at least, what you can do is request a one time retake the following year war and request that your child be tested alone or in a small group. That way they won’t have to wait for a whole class to finish each question.

I was a test administrator this year for third grade and the test was self-paced (kids did have to wait to go to next section)
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 20:45     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

CogAT can be really challenging fornaverage ability kids who have attention issues. The test is administered in a group and the kids havevto wait at the group’s pace to have each question read. That can be brutally boring.

Schools will not remediate an ability test. But if it’s FCPS at least, what you can do is request a one time retake the following year war and request that your child be tested alone or in a small group. That way they won’t have to wait for a whole class to finish each question.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 20:36     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

We had the same. I was shocked! My DD is a good student and hard worker. We got her tested and she has inattentive ADHD where her mind basically “leaves the building” during these tests. She is in 7th grade and gets straight As. I just saw she took a standardized test and got a 4 out of 99?!?!
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 20:29     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

Is there anything in their school performance or how they interact with the world that has you concerned? If there is you may want to request additional testing. If it seems inconsistent with your experience of your child I would just consider PPs point that maybe they rushed or really didn't care about the test causing a low score.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 19:18     Subject: Re:Extremely low cogat scores

Sorry, I meant CoGAT score, not NNAT. But it is the same deal.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 19:15     Subject: Re:Extremely low cogat scores

The NNAT is a proxy for an IQ test, you shouldn't be trying to prep for the test to get a better score. How old was your child when they took the NNAT? Sometimes younger kids rush through the test or just guess because they don't care. It is not like a SOL that you have to pass at a certain level or retake.

But I would ask the school if they are worried because 5th-15th percentile is low, which you already know.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 19:06     Subject: Extremely low cogat scores

Anyone know what can be done with low scores (5-15%). Does the school provide extra support like summer school to help raise them?