Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 19:32     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
There are minimal scholarships for boy’s lacrosse, perhaps it makes more sense for a football player.


Do you think all these private school parents who are reclassing their kids don’t know that? Obviously it makes sense to them. Very likely the idea is it gets the kid into a better school than he could have without reclassing.


I live in Baltimore and don’t t see much of this actually although I am sure it occurs. From what I have heard, Crabs has been the only local club where it is prominent. My personal opinion is that lacrosse parents often lose their heads and do things that don’t actually make a ton of sense.

The super sophomore at MCD is a well know re-class not Crabs. It is all teams all schools


That super sophomore still plays for a 2022 club team.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 11:46     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
There are minimal scholarships for boy’s lacrosse, perhaps it makes more sense for a football player.


Do you think all these private school parents who are reclassing their kids don’t know that? Obviously it makes sense to them. Very likely the idea is it gets the kid into a better school than he could have without reclassing.


I live in Baltimore and don’t t see much of this actually although I am sure it occurs. From what I have heard, Crabs has been the only local club where it is prominent. My personal opinion is that lacrosse parents often lose their heads and do things that don’t actually make a ton of sense.

The super sophomore at MCD is a well know re-class not Crabs. It is all teams all schools
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 09:34     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:25 year old seniors in college


Yes Salisbury fogo was 25 lol


Medical reason for it though.

https://usalaxmagazine.com/college/men/how-salisbury-faceoff-ace-brett-malamphy-overcame-narcolepsy
allstar college and pro rob pannell spent 5 years in hs (1pg at deerfield) and played 5 seasons at cornell (injury early senior spring season) graduating when he was 23. grant ament was 23 as well can could have stayed ANOTHER year at psu but moved on rather than spending 6th year in college
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 08:51     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:25 year old seniors in college


Yes Salisbury fogo was 25 lol


Medical reason for it though.

https://usalaxmagazine.com/college/men/how-salisbury-faceoff-ace-brett-malamphy-overcame-narcolepsy
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 07:32     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
Anonymous wrote:25 year old seniors in college


Yes Salisbury fogo was 25 lol
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 22:21     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
Anonymous wrote:
There are minimal scholarships for boy’s lacrosse, perhaps it makes more sense for a football player.


Do you think all these private school parents who are reclassing their kids don’t know that? Obviously it makes sense to them. Very likely the idea is it gets the kid into a better school than he could have without reclassing.


I live in Baltimore and don’t t see much of this actually although I am sure it occurs. From what I have heard, Crabs has been the only local club where it is prominent. My personal opinion is that lacrosse parents often lose their heads and do things that don’t actually make a ton of sense.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 19:37     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
There are minimal scholarships for boy’s lacrosse, perhaps it makes more sense for a football player.


Do you think all these private school parents who are reclassing their kids don’t know that? Obviously it makes sense to them. Very likely the idea is it gets the kid into a better school than he could have without reclassing.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 18:38     Subject: S/o Reclassification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does it really fool anyone? Obviously it benefits a team for a year or two, and the player has slightly better film, but doesn’t everyone catch up in growth by high school? And aren’t colleges smart enough to figure this out? We know one kid who reclassified who was already on older side of his grade and has a twin who is now a grade ahead.


This isn’t complicated and shouldn’t fool anyone. There are huge physical differences, not to mention maturity benefits, for young men btw 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 that translate into increased success on the high school field of play and college recruiting. It’s undeniable, which is why people do it. Does the athletic advantage diminish over time? Absolutely. There are minimal differences besides talent btw a 21 or 22 yr old. But if reclassifying in HS means your son gets a an athletic scholarship or gets admitted to a a highly ranked academic school he otherwise wouldn’t get into, then it’s absolutely worth it.

Totally different conversation when it comes to fairness in athletic competition btw schools that are loaded with reclassified players and those that are not. In the DMV, the public’s don’t allow reclassifying and only a few private school leagues do. The leagues and schools that allow reclassifying stockpile talent and dominate.


There are minimal scholarships for boy’s lacrosse, perhaps it makes more sense for a football player. The player I referenced above isn’t on the list oftop2023 recruits (where he plays now) but I see two Baltimore players who are in their natural age group.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 17:57     Subject: S/o Reclassification
Anonymous wrote:Does it really fool anyone? Obviously it benefits a team for a year or two, and the player has slightly better film, but doesn’t everyone catch up in growth by high school? And aren’t colleges smart enough to figure this out? We know one kid who reclassified who was already on older side of his grade and has a twin who is now a grade ahead.


This isn’t complicated and shouldn’t fool anyone. There are huge physical differences, not to mention maturity benefits, for young men btw 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 that translate into increased success on the high school field of play and college recruiting. It’s undeniable, which is why people do it. Does the athletic advantage diminish over time? Absolutely. There are minimal differences besides talent btw a 21 or 22 yr old. But if reclassifying in HS means your son gets a an athletic scholarship or gets admitted to a a highly ranked academic school he otherwise wouldn’t get into, then it’s absolutely worth it.

Totally different conversation when it comes to fairness in athletic competition btw schools that are loaded with reclassified players and those that are not. In the DMV, the public’s don’t allow reclassifying and only a few private school leagues do. The leagues and schools that allow reclassifying stockpile talent and dominate.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 17:23     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
Anonymous wrote:Colleges know it is happening. Nobody is tricking them. Indeed, sometimes a college recruiter will openly advise a kid to reclass - "we can't take you as a freshman in 2021, but how about 2022?"

It is so common in football, lacrosse, and other sports that it must confer at least some advantage.


It’s so common in the boys’ contact sports especially—football, hockey and lacrosse. Coaches advise it. Look at the New England prep schools—it’s advised for academics and/or athletics. The same people trying to make kids/parents feel badly are the same ones that say size doesn’t matter in these sports. Size matters and re-classification can sometimes help with that.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 17:15     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
Anonymous wrote:25 year old seniors in college


So what? The number of reclassed athletes who are not 22 when they graduate has got to be much less than the number of kids who started at age 18 but didn't graduate at 22 because they switched majors, switched schools, had to take time off to work, dropped out or flunked out and waited a year or two before they got back in, etc etc etc.

Graduation rate from first institution attended for first-time, full-time bachelor's degree-seeking students at 4-year postsecondary institutions, by race/ethnicity, time to completion, sex, control of institution, and percentage of applications accepted: Selected cohort entry years, 1996 through 2012

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d19/tables/dt19_326.10.asp

For the 2012 cohort,
43.7% graduated within 4 years of start
58.7% graduated within 5 years of start
62.4% graduated within 6 years of start

A reclassed athlete is going to be very far from the only "older" kid on campus.

When I was in college in the 1980s, I had fellow students in their late 20s. At the time that seemed unimaginably old to me, LOL.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 16:23     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
25 year old seniors in college
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 15:29     Subject: Re:S/o Reclassification
Colleges know it is happening. Nobody is tricking them. Indeed, sometimes a college recruiter will openly advise a kid to reclass - "we can't take you as a freshman in 2021, but how about 2022?"

It is so common in football, lacrosse, and other sports that it must confer at least some advantage.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:39     Subject: S/o Reclassification
Yes 80% of the top rated 2023’s are reclassed
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 13:11     Subject: S/o Reclassification
Does it really fool anyone? Obviously it benefits a team for a year or two, and the player has slightly better film, but doesn’t everyone catch up in growth by high school? And aren’t colleges smart enough to figure this out? We know one kid who reclassified who was already on older side of his grade and has a twin who is now a grade ahead.