Anonymous
05/26/2021 21:21
Subject: Question about cuts
I thought most big tournaments didn't let you use guest players from outside the club. I think if they did that at our club the parents would rebel.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 21:18
Subject: Re:Question about cuts
Think not playing just because of frustration over cut might send the wrong message. However, if you can quickly find a potential team for next season willing to use a guest player for their tournament this weekend it could be a great chance to get a feel for the team and see if that would be a good option for next season. That would be taking positive action while also avoiding the discomfort of being around the old team. If I were in that situation I would spend the next couple days calling coaches and managers.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 21:04
Subject: Re:Question about cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any kid who no-shows for the rest of the season after being cut/demoted deserves to be cut/demoted. The ones hurt the most by that decision aren’t the club or the coach, it’s the teammates who had absolutely nothing to do with the decision.
On the flip side, the kid can choose to move on and know it early, do the right thing and tell the coach/club so that the club can make the appropriate choices for other players. And then be screwed/not played/travel and spend $$ for no reason out of spite.... I know, it happened to my DD when she knew in April that she was leaving a team a few years ago and told the coach. Then she rode the bench. Despite the fact that the reason she was leaving was to move to a higher level of play. It goes both ways -- if the demoted player is supposed to be loyal to the club and the teammates, then the club needs to return the courtesy.
A coach has an investment in developing players who are staying in the club. If she announced she was leaving halfway through the season, he probably felt his energy was better spent on developing players who might be staying. Unless you were moving out of area, April is awfully early to already have a commitment from another team, most aren’t even doing tryouts yet. So your daughter effectively communicated to the coach that she went hunting for opportunities to leave.
This is a business. The parent with the DD who told the club she was going to leave was paying through June, and that child has a right to be treated equal to the other paying players. Sorry but no one is actually trying to only develop kids who will stay at the club. If they are benching her they are doing it out of spite.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 20:53
Subject: Re:Question about cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any kid who no-shows for the rest of the season after being cut/demoted deserves to be cut/demoted. The ones hurt the most by that decision aren’t the club or the coach, it’s the teammates who had absolutely nothing to do with the decision.
On the flip side, the kid can choose to move on and know it early, do the right thing and tell the coach/club so that the club can make the appropriate choices for other players. And then be screwed/not played/travel and spend $$ for no reason out of spite.... I know, it happened to my DD when she knew in April that she was leaving a team a few years ago and told the coach. Then she rode the bench. Despite the fact that the reason she was leaving was to move to a higher level of play. It goes both ways -- if the demoted player is supposed to be loyal to the club and the teammates, then the club needs to return the courtesy.
What did the teammates have to do with the coach’s decision here? The whole point of the previous post is that the other kids on the team have no say in other kids’ team placement, so if your kid is going to retaliate in a way that primarily hurts the other kids, they’re not a good teammate.
If the kid does not want to play it is okay. Maybe someone else on the bench gets more minutes. The teammate and the team are not screwed. Grow up.
Then I guess kid was disposable and deserved to be cut. See how that works? If your absence doesn’t hurt the team, then there’s no reason to keep you.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 20:50
Subject: Re:Question about cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any kid who no-shows for the rest of the season after being cut/demoted deserves to be cut/demoted. The ones hurt the most by that decision aren’t the club or the coach, it’s the teammates who had absolutely nothing to do with the decision.
On the flip side, the kid can choose to move on and know it early, do the right thing and tell the coach/club so that the club can make the appropriate choices for other players. And then be screwed/not played/travel and spend $$ for no reason out of spite.... I know, it happened to my DD when she knew in April that she was leaving a team a few years ago and told the coach. Then she rode the bench. Despite the fact that the reason she was leaving was to move to a higher level of play. It goes both ways -- if the demoted player is supposed to be loyal to the club and the teammates, then the club needs to return the courtesy.
What did the teammates have to do with the coach’s decision here? The whole point of the previous post is that the other kids on the team have no say in other kids’ team placement, so if your kid is going to retaliate in a way that primarily hurts the other kids, they’re not a good teammate.
If the kid does not want to play it is okay. Maybe someone else on the bench gets more minutes. The teammate and the team are not screwed. Grow up.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 20:12
Subject: Re:Question about cuts
Our team is playing in a regional tournament at the end of June and the demoted kids are still expected to play in it. The new players won't come in until practice starts for the fall season.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 20:10
Subject: Re:Question about cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any kid who no-shows for the rest of the season after being cut/demoted deserves to be cut/demoted. The ones hurt the most by that decision aren’t the club or the coach, it’s the teammates who had absolutely nothing to do with the decision.
On the flip side, the kid can choose to move on and know it early, do the right thing and tell the coach/club so that the club can make the appropriate choices for other players. And then be screwed/not played/travel and spend $$ for no reason out of spite.... I know, it happened to my DD when she knew in April that she was leaving a team a few years ago and told the coach. Then she rode the bench. Despite the fact that the reason she was leaving was to move to a higher level of play. It goes both ways -- if the demoted player is supposed to be loyal to the club and the teammates, then the club needs to return the courtesy.
What did the teammates have to do with the coach’s decision here? The whole point of the previous post is that the other kids on the team have no say in other kids’ team placement, so if your kid is going to retaliate in a way that primarily hurts the other kids, they’re not a good teammate.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 20:07
Subject: Re:Question about cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any kid who no-shows for the rest of the season after being cut/demoted deserves to be cut/demoted. The ones hurt the most by that decision aren’t the club or the coach, it’s the teammates who had absolutely nothing to do with the decision.
On the flip side, the kid can choose to move on and know it early, do the right thing and tell the coach/club so that the club can make the appropriate choices for other players. And then be screwed/not played/travel and spend $$ for no reason out of spite.... I know, it happened to my DD when she knew in April that she was leaving a team a few years ago and told the coach. Then she rode the bench. Despite the fact that the reason she was leaving was to move to a higher level of play. It goes both ways -- if the demoted player is supposed to be loyal to the club and the teammates, then the club needs to return the courtesy.
A coach has an investment in developing players who are staying in the club. If she announced she was leaving halfway through the season, he probably felt his energy was better spent on developing players who might be staying. Unless you were moving out of area, April is awfully early to already have a commitment from another team, most aren’t even doing tryouts yet. So your daughter effectively communicated to the coach that she went hunting for opportunities to leave.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 19:57
Subject: Re:Question about cuts
Anonymous wrote:Any kid who no-shows for the rest of the season after being cut/demoted deserves to be cut/demoted. The ones hurt the most by that decision aren’t the club or the coach, it’s the teammates who had absolutely nothing to do with the decision.
On the flip side, the kid can choose to move on and know it early, do the right thing and tell the coach/club so that the club can make the appropriate choices for other players. And then be screwed/not played/travel and spend $$ for no reason out of spite.... I know, it happened to my DD when she knew in April that she was leaving a team a few years ago and told the coach. Then she rode the bench. Despite the fact that the reason she was leaving was to move to a higher level of play. It goes both ways -- if the demoted player is supposed to be loyal to the club and the teammates, then the club needs to return the courtesy.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 19:39
Subject: Re:Question about cuts
Any kid who no-shows for the rest of the season after being cut/demoted deserves to be cut/demoted. The ones hurt the most by that decision aren’t the club or the coach, it’s the teammates who had absolutely nothing to do with the decision.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 19:36
Subject: Question about cuts
The first cut is the deepest
Anonymous
05/26/2021 19:29
Subject: Question about cuts
I would be so annoyed at the whole club if my child were not played after telling them of plans to leave or being demoted.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 17:38
Subject: Question about cuts
Anonymous wrote:Do kids who get cut or get rejection letters not so up for Memorial Day tournaments? or finish out the season?
Would like to hear any experiences you've had dealing with this and what clubs?
Yes all the time. Some kids play out the season other do not. I have no problem with a kid skipping out on these things if they have been demote, going to a new club or just quitting soccer. You are a paying customer. If it was important to the club, the club would fix it. Sometimes the coach will not play a kid who is leaving or demoted. You know just to stick it to kid
The thing is by Memorial Day Tournaments the coaches, kids and parents are generally checked out. They are already moved on to the next team and summer vacation. No one will remember this weekend.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 17:02
Subject: Question about cuts
Anonymous wrote:Do kids who get cut or get rejection letters not so up for Memorial Day tournaments? or finish out the season?
Would like to hear any experiences you've had dealing with this and what clubs?
Kids get placed at different team levels throughout their playing career. Being placed on the B team is not "cut". Being cut means there is no spot for you on the team or at the club.
If your kid got placed on a lower level team or did not get promoted your player was not "cut". If this is the actual scenario I would not recommend having a temper tantrum over that.
If your kid did not make ANY team at the current club then THAT would be different.
Anonymous
05/26/2021 16:45
Subject: Question about cuts
Do kids who get cut or get rejection letters not so up for Memorial Day tournaments? or finish out the season?
Would like to hear any experiences you've had dealing with this and what clubs?
Would like to hear any experiences you've had dealing with this and what clubs?