Anonymous
05/10/2021 11:29
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sure there is some coaches that do some of this. It might also have to do with the parents attitude. You would probably have to find a club that is not trying to be in ECNL or MLS next and they might be doing this.
I disagree. I think this is more common in the top level clubs than the lower level ones, although you can certianly find good coaches in both situations.
Maybe an underperforming club might be prioritizing development, which explains why they are losing.
Now I know you are trolling. Underperforming is the result of bad coaching, not good.
Underperforming or not winning could be the result of not having talent.
Many of the goals and values of player development are at odds with winning and being a top club. We aren't talking about professional clubs here that have the resources and their pick from a large player pool. These are clubs that often are struggling to survive financially, and fighting hard to find enough players to fill rosters. Winning games helps recruit players and coaches. And coaches are often stuck working with whatever talent they are able to recruit. Unless you believe anyone could be developed into a good soccer player, regardless of even having basic talents, and the only thing that matters is the coaching.
This is very true...especially around here. It's hard to be a club that prioritizes developing over winning because everyone wants their little super star to be on the best team and if you get crushed every week doing the things necessary to develop each kid then the players and their parents will look to a winning team. I see it all the time. In our experience, and as others have alluded, there aren't many programs that do this holistically. It is more case by case depending on the individual team/coach.
And when the better players get benched or sidelines for the sake of developing weaker or budding players, they often leave to look for greener pastures. It's a lose-lose.
Anonymous
05/10/2021 11:19
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sure there is some coaches that do some of this. It might also have to do with the parents attitude. You would probably have to find a club that is not trying to be in ECNL or MLS next and they might be doing this.
I disagree. I think this is more common in the top level clubs than the lower level ones, although you can certianly find good coaches in both situations.
Maybe an underperforming club might be prioritizing development, which explains why they are losing.
Now I know you are trolling. Underperforming is the result of bad coaching, not good.
Underperforming or not winning could be the result of not having talent.
Many of the goals and values of player development are at odds with winning and being a top club. We aren't talking about professional clubs here that have the resources and their pick from a large player pool. These are clubs that often are struggling to survive financially, and fighting hard to find enough players to fill rosters. Winning games helps recruit players and coaches. And coaches are often stuck working with whatever talent they are able to recruit. Unless you believe anyone could be developed into a good soccer player, regardless of even having basic talents, and the only thing that matters is the coaching.
This is very true...especially around here. It's hard to be a club that prioritizes developing over winning because everyone wants their little super star to be on the best team and if you get crushed every week doing the things necessary to develop each kid then the players and their parents will look to a winning team. I see it all the time. In our experience, and as others have alluded, there aren't many programs that do this holistically. It is more case by case depending on the individual team/coach.
Anonymous
05/10/2021 11:16
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That truly prioritizes player development? Gives all kids enough playing time? Switches around the U12s so there are no striker prima donnas and teaches kids to play more than one position? Coaches are firm but kind?
Look no further
FCV
Only if you are a star already.
Pipeline
I just spit out my coffee. Thanks for the good laugh this morning.
Loudoun
Anonymous
05/10/2021 11:14
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That truly prioritizes player development? Gives all kids enough playing time? Switches around the U12s so there are no striker prima donnas and teaches kids to play more than one position? Coaches are firm but kind?
Look no further
FCV
Only if you are a star already.
Pipeline
I just spit out my coffee. Thanks for the good laugh this morning.
Anonymous
05/10/2021 11:13
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sure there is some coaches that do some of this. It might also have to do with the parents attitude. You would probably have to find a club that is not trying to be in ECNL or MLS next and they might be doing this.
I disagree. I think this is more common in the top level clubs than the lower level ones, although you can certianly find good coaches in both situations.
Maybe an underperforming club might be prioritizing development, which explains why they are losing.
Now I know you are trolling. Underperforming is the result of bad coaching, not good.
Underperforming or not winning could be the result of not having talent.
Many of the goals and values of player development are at odds with winning and being a top club. We aren't talking about professional clubs here that have the resources and their pick from a large player pool. These are clubs that often are struggling to survive financially, and fighting hard to find enough players to fill rosters. Winning games helps recruit players and coaches. And coaches are often stuck working with whatever talent they are able to recruit. Unless you believe anyone could be developed into a good soccer player, regardless of even having basic talents, and the only thing that matters is the coaching.
Anonymous
05/10/2021 11:06
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sure there is some coaches that do some of this. It might also have to do with the parents attitude. You would probably have to find a club that is not trying to be in ECNL or MLS next and they might be doing this.
I disagree. I think this is more common in the top level clubs than the lower level ones, although you can certianly find good coaches in both situations.
Maybe an underperforming club might be prioritizing development, which explains why they are losing.
Now I know you are trolling. Underperforming is the result of bad coaching, not good.
You’ll win more games if you put kids in one position and let them master it and keep your strong players on their field as long as possible rarely playing your bench. Most people would agree that’s horrible for development
Anonymous
05/10/2021 10:41
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sure there is some coaches that do some of this. It might also have to do with the parents attitude. You would probably have to find a club that is not trying to be in ECNL or MLS next and they might be doing this.
I disagree. I think this is more common in the top level clubs than the lower level ones, although you can certianly find good coaches in both situations.
Maybe an underperforming club might be prioritizing development, which explains why they are losing.
Now I know you are trolling. Underperforming is the result of bad coaching, not good.
Underperforming or not winning could be the result of not having talent.
Anonymous
05/10/2021 10:37
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:I'm sure there is some coaches that do some of this. It might also have to do with the parents attitude. You would probably have to find a club that is not trying to be in ECNL or MLS next and they might be doing this.
I disagree. I think this is more common in the top level clubs than the lower level ones, although you can certianly find good coaches in both situations.
Maybe an underperforming club might be prioritizing development, which explains why they are losing.
Now I know you are trolling. Underperforming is the result of bad coaching, not good.
Anonymous
05/10/2021 10:36
Subject: Re:Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a club where this happens with every coach and team. But there certainly are fantastic coaches in a number of clubs who do exactly that. If you know who the coach will be for a team you are interested in, ask the parent community for feedback.
Agree.
Anonymous
05/10/2021 10:33
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That truly prioritizes player development? Gives all kids enough playing time? Switches around the U12s so there are no striker prima donnas and teaches kids to play more than one position? Coaches are firm but kind?
Look no further
FCV
Only if you are a star already.
Pipeline
Anonymous
05/10/2021 10:22
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That truly prioritizes player development? Gives all kids enough playing time? Switches around the U12s so there are no striker prima donnas and teaches kids to play more than one position? Coaches are firm but kind?
Look no further
FCV
Only if you are a star already.
Anonymous
05/10/2021 10:21
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:That truly prioritizes player development? Gives all kids enough playing time? Switches around the U12s so there are no striker prima donnas and teaches kids to play more than one position? Coaches are firm but kind?
I'm sure there is some coaches that do some of this. It might also have to do with the parents attitude. You would probably have to find a club that is not trying to be in ECNL or MLS next and they might be doing this. Maybe an underperforming club might be prioritizing development, which explains why they are losing.
Anonymous
05/10/2021 10:21
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
Anonymous wrote:That truly prioritizes player development? Gives all kids enough playing time? Switches around the U12s so there are no striker prima donnas and teaches kids to play more than one position? Coaches are firm but kind?
Look no further
FCV
Anonymous
05/10/2021 10:17
Subject: Re:Is there a real club out there....
I don’t think there is a club where this happens with every coach and team. But there certainly are fantastic coaches in a number of clubs who do exactly that. If you know who the coach will be for a team you are interested in, ask the parent community for feedback.
Anonymous
05/10/2021 10:09
Subject: Is there a real club out there....
That truly prioritizes player development? Gives all kids enough playing time? Switches around the U12s so there are no striker prima donnas and teaches kids to play more than one position? Coaches are firm but kind?