Anonymous
05/09/2021 16:55
Subject: The best club is the one that…
Anonymous wrote:Fcv has the best promotion, coaching and is the only pathway to YNT. All of the other clubs in this area are 2nd tier and that’s why we beat them all of the time. Period.
Except in games FCV doesn't beat area teams in games.
Look at the past 3 showcases - lost to McLean, VDA, Richmond...
Anonymous
05/09/2021 16:42
Subject: The best club is the one that…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of discussion here about clubs, usually the negatives. Without naming specific clubs what are the measures by which you’d even determine a good club.
The club that wins the most consistently across all age groups?
The best coaches (and how is that even measured)?
The most players?
The most money?
The most D1 college signings?
The least player turnover?
The best club for your kid is the one with the best coaches. A group of good coaches who remain together usually end up with clubs that have all the other criteria you list - but:
1. Your kid benefits from the coaches, not the symptoms of good coaching which you also describe
2. After good coaches leave, the symptoms can persist for some time.
How do you tell a good coach? Certainly all the other things you list are correlated with good coaching, so picking a club by those metrics give you a better chance of finding a good coach than picking clubs with the opposite attributes - but they are no guarantee. The only sure way to find a good coach is to
- know what good coaching looks like, and watch practices to see how he coaches
- know what good soccer looks like, and watch games to see how the team plays
Many parents do not have the knowledge to do that, in which case you just have to go by reputation/word of mouth/team record etc.
There are some clubs, typically smaller, with good coaches but they don’t have the player pool to field consistent teams in every age group. With less competitive teams, mixed age group teams, it’s hard to attract players, which makes teams less competitive. Even with good coaching is this still a good club?
If the coach is willing to coach a team which is not in the best interests of the players on the team then he's not a good coach in the first place.
Anonymous
05/09/2021 14:23
Subject: The best club is the one that…
Has DG as a coach.
Anonymous
05/09/2021 14:22
Subject: The best club is the one that…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of discussion here about clubs, usually the negatives. Without naming specific clubs what are the measures by which you’d even determine a good club.
The club that wins the most consistently across all age groups?
The best coaches (and how is that even measured)?
The most players?
The most money?
The most D1 college signings?
The least player turnover?
The best club for your kid is the one with the best coaches. A group of good coaches who remain together usually end up with clubs that have all the other criteria you list - but:
1. Your kid benefits from the coaches, not the symptoms of good coaching which you also describe
2. After good coaches leave, the symptoms can persist for some time.
How do you tell a good coach? Certainly all the other things you list are correlated with good coaching, so picking a club by those metrics give you a better chance of finding a good coach than picking clubs with the opposite attributes - but they are no guarantee. The only sure way to find a good coach is to
- know what good coaching looks like, and watch practices to see how he coaches
- know what good soccer looks like, and watch games to see how the team plays
Many parents do not have the knowledge to do that, in which case you just have to go by reputation/word of mouth/team record etc.
There are some clubs, typically smaller, with good coaches but they don’t have the player pool to field consistent teams in every age group. With less competitive teams, mixed age group teams, it’s hard to attract players, which makes teams less competitive. Even with good coaching is this still a good club?
Anonymous
05/09/2021 12:06
Subject: The best club is the one that…
Knows how to sandbag tournaments by pulling down players from higher tier teams or older age groups when they play up a year to play in lower divisions and win a lot of trophies and then brag about them on social media
Anonymous
05/09/2021 11:50
Subject: Re:The best club is the one that…
The best club is the one that focuses more on actual soccer training and less on social media. (Seriously— stay away from the clubs with the flashy social media profiles. They are charlatans.)
Anonymous
05/09/2021 11:33
Subject: The best club is the one that…
Fcv has the best promotion, coaching and is the only pathway to YNT. All of the other clubs in this area are 2nd tier and that’s why we beat them all of the time. Period.
Anonymous
05/09/2021 11:30
Subject: The best club is the one that…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:...that my kid plays on.
This 100%. Explains most of what’s posted on this board. My kid’s club is the best and all the others are horrible. Until we switch clubs.
It's not entirely surprising though is it. Since people presumably choose the club they think is the best one in the first place. Except of course for the folks who just want to stay local - and they tell everyone on this board that they should just pick the closest team to home
.
Anonymous
05/09/2021 11:27
Subject: The best club is the one that…
Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of discussion here about clubs, usually the negatives. Without naming specific clubs what are the measures by which you’d even determine a good club.
The club that wins the most consistently across all age groups?
The best coaches (and how is that even measured)?
The most players?
The most money?
The most D1 college signings?
The least player turnover?
The best club for your kid is the one with the best coaches. A group of good coaches who remain together usually end up with clubs that have all the other criteria you list - but:
1. Your kid benefits from the coaches, not the symptoms of good coaching which you also describe
2. After good coaches leave, the symptoms can persist for some time.
How do you tell a good coach? Certainly all the other things you list are correlated with good coaching, so picking a club by those metrics give you a better chance of finding a good coach than picking clubs with the opposite attributes - but they are no guarantee. The only sure way to find a good coach is to
- know what good coaching looks like, and watch practices to see how he coaches
- know what good soccer looks like, and watch games to see how the team plays
Many parents do not have the knowledge to do that, in which case you just have to go by reputation/word of mouth/team record etc.
Anonymous
05/09/2021 08:03
Subject: The best club is the one that…
Anonymous wrote:...that my kid plays on.
This 100%. Explains most of what’s posted on this board. My kid’s club is the best and all the others are horrible. Until we switch clubs.
Anonymous
05/08/2021 22:32
Subject: The best club is the one that…
...that my kid plays on.
Anonymous
05/08/2021 21:12
Subject: The best club is the one that…
is closest and least expensive
Anonymous
05/08/2021 21:10
Subject: The best club is the one that…
The ones with educated coaches who are role models for your kid who likely will choose and academic path vice soccer anyhow. Coaches who impart character as a function of what you do is what counts, not what you or others say.
Or keep giving your money to I'll educated non-teachers who actually will impart nothing and do nothing but use you as an atm machine. Most of the coaches in NOVA have nothing but ego and likely would be hard pressed paying rent if not for you writing them a check.
Most of the narcissistic dopes on the board who are living fantasies through thier u12 players will usually figure it out too late.
Free advice.
Or keep giving your money to I'll educated non-teachers who actually will impart nothing and do nothing but use you as an atm machine. Most of the coaches in NOVA have nothing but ego and likely would be hard pressed paying rent if not for you writing them a check.
Most of the narcissistic dopes on the board who are living fantasies through thier u12 players will usually figure it out too late.
Free advice.
Anonymous
05/08/2021 21:05
Subject: Re:The best club is the one that…
FCV has all those points. Period.
Anonymous
05/08/2021 20:19
Subject: The best club is the one that…
There is a lot of discussion here about clubs, usually the negatives. Without naming specific clubs what are the measures by which you’d even determine a good club.
The club that wins the most consistently across all age groups?
The best coaches (and how is that even measured)?
The most players?
The most money?
The most D1 college signings?
The least player turnover?
The club that wins the most consistently across all age groups?
The best coaches (and how is that even measured)?
The most players?
The most money?
The most D1 college signings?
The least player turnover?