Anonymous wrote:It's the next new shiny thing. IT's the same damn kids and the same damn Clubs just in a shiny new package.

You don't automatically become great when bestowed entry. Your kid is not the next Pulisic because his team has entered a new league.

We have some dads running around like madmen rejoicing about mlsnext.

AS my dad used to say about the US soccer system: Shit in, Shit out

A lot of that shit is showing up on European teams these days...

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As a European who grew up with rabid soccer fans, I peruse this forum but don't understand the intensity of feeling towards children's clubs, coaches' decisions, and soccer life in general. It's not like that at all in Europe. None of your children are going to make it, so you might as well enjoy the ride...

I think these people don't watch MLS. Last I looked, Americans only accounted for about 40% of MLS roster spots. Might be less now. Many of those are bench warmers too.

It happens in college too. They are taking the majority of the scholarships from the Americans too.

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As a European who grew up with rabid soccer fans, I peruse this forum but don't understand the intensity of feeling towards children's clubs, coaches' decisions, and soccer life in general. It's not like that at all in Europe. None of your children are going to make it, so you might as well enjoy the ride...

I think these people don't watch MLS. Last I looked, Americans only accounted for about 40% of MLS roster spots. Might be less now. Many of those are bench warmers too.

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Anonymous wrote:
As a European who grew up with rabid soccer fans, I peruse this forum but don't understand the intensity of feeling towards children's clubs, coaches' decisions, and soccer life in general. It's not like that at all in Europe. None of your children are going to make it, so you might as well enjoy the ride...

"Make it"? What is "Make it"? Why do some people think that all the parents want their kid to go pro. I'm assuming that's what you mean by "make it". My son plays on one of top teams and I don't know any of parent who even wants their kid to go pro or even thinks their kid is good enough to go pro (ok maybe some do but they don't run around announcing it). Why would I want my kid to do something where he can barely eke out a living. Maybe some parents just want their kid to work really hard at something and see how far it can go and yes, on this path, many parents get burned by clubs, coaches, etc and get pissed off and share their feelings. Why would I want to accept all the BS these clubs and coaches throw at us without a fuss?

Preach. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that hoping for a positive soccer experience for your kid that will teach them the value of hard work, teamwork, and commitment does not reflect unrealistic goals or expectations a professional or even college career?

+1!

MSLNext parent here. I think all the different leagues in the DMV are just land/money grabs. Doesn't matter who your kid plays against as long as its making him/her better. Find a good club that helps in that along with skills training on the side and see where it goes. I am just focusing on differentiating him from other kids trying to get into a good college. If he is able to do something that he loves to do along the way, perfect.

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So what's stopping all of you malcontents from making your own association and clubs, eh? Hire coaches with the explicit instruction to use all players. Given clear guidelines on player selection.

Field monopolies

That's not even a joke. It's impossible to get field space in any County.

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So what's stopping all of you malcontents from making your own association and clubs, eh? Hire coaches with the explicit instruction to use all players. Given clear guidelines on player selection.

Field monopolies

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Anonymous wrote:
As a European who grew up with rabid soccer fans, I peruse this forum but don't understand the intensity of feeling towards children's clubs, coaches' decisions, and soccer life in general. It's not like that at all in Europe. None of your children are going to make it, so you might as well enjoy the ride...

"Make it"? What is "Make it"? Why do some people think that all the parents want their kid to go pro. I'm assuming that's what you mean by "make it". My son plays on one of top teams and I don't know any of parent who even wants their kid to go pro or even thinks their kid is good enough to go pro (ok maybe some do but they don't run around announcing it). Why would I want my kid to do something where he can barely eke out a living. Maybe some parents just want their kid to work really hard at something and see how far it can go and yes, on this path, many parents get burned by clubs, coaches, etc and get pissed off and share their feelings. Why would I want to accept all the BS these clubs and coaches throw at us without a fuss?

Preach. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that hoping for a positive soccer experience for your kid that will teach them the value of hard work, teamwork, and commitment does not reflect unrealistic goals or expectations a professional or even college career?

So what's stopping all of you malcontents from making your own association and clubs, eh? Hire coaches with the explicit instruction to use all players. Given clear guidelines on player selection.

I literally know nobody who is hysterical about this (other than the OP, who clearly cares a lot about what other people are doing and saying off the field), and we are at an mls next club. I think it is a useful alternative and antidote to the preposterous hype surrounding the walled garden of the encl. That is it. No league makes a player better. Ultimately, the coaches and teammates are responsible for most of it. Playing really good competition helps too. But no, I don’t think anybody views this as fundamentally different than what existed before with da, other than different clubs, wider competition, and a bigger potential recruiting platform for individual clubs.

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As a European who grew up with rabid soccer fans, I peruse this forum but don't understand the intensity of feeling towards children's clubs, coaches' decisions, and soccer life in general. It's not like that at all in Europe. None of your children are going to make it, so you might as well enjoy the ride...

"Make it"? What is "Make it"? Why do some people think that all the parents want their kid to go pro. I'm assuming that's what you mean by "make it". My son plays on one of top teams and I don't know any of parent who even wants their kid to go pro or even thinks their kid is good enough to go pro (ok maybe some do but they don't run around announcing it). Why would I want my kid to do something where he can barely eke out a living. Maybe some parents just want their kid to work really hard at something and see how far it can go and yes, on this path, many parents get burned by clubs, coaches, etc and get pissed off and share their feelings. Why would I want to accept all the BS these clubs and coaches throw at us without a fuss?

Anonymous wrote:
As a European who grew up with rabid soccer fans, I peruse this forum but don't understand the intensity of feeling towards children's clubs, coaches' decisions, and soccer life in general. It's not like that at all in Europe. None of your children are going to make it, so you might as well enjoy the ride...

This doesn't really pertain to MLS Next, but the bolded is kind of the point. Everyone wants to make this all about crazy soccer parents, but the problems lie just as much, if not more, with the coaches and clubs. How can you enjoy a ride with constant coaching and roster changes, with clubs merging, reorganizing, and changing leagues on a regular basis? How is a kid or parent supposed to enjoy the ride when coaches treat every U little game as though their careers depend on a win, benching and often ignoring any kid who displeases them?

The whole point is that most kids aren't going to make it, but most of them want to get better and play at a level higher than a rec league. A club with good coaches, stability, effective training and decent communication should be easy to find, but it isn't.

As a European who grew up with rabid soccer fans, I peruse this forum but don't understand the intensity of feeling towards children's clubs, coaches' decisions, and soccer life in general. It's not like that at all in Europe. None of your children are going to make it, so you might as well enjoy the ride...

TURF WARS

That's all this is.

It's the next new shiny thing. IT's the same damn kids and the same damn Clubs just in a shiny new package.

You don't automatically become great when bestowed entry. Your kid is not the next Pulisic because his team has entered a new league.

We have some dads running around like madmen rejoicing about mlsnext.

AS my dad used to say about the US soccer system: Shit in, Shit out