Anonymous wrote:Standardized tests are not fair and penalize those from disadvantaged backgrounds and we all know it.

Which is why those kids have a boost in admissions unrelated to SAT scores. For the rest of the kids, the score fills out the academic picture.

Standardized tests are not fair and penalize those from disadvantaged backgrounds and we all know it.

I think that is tragic and lazy. So many students weren't able to take the test or savvy enough to know how to get a seat.

28% of UVA admits for the Class of 2025 did not submit scores. I didn't see a breakdown between out of state and in state.

Anonymous wrote:Link to subscribe to his newsletter please

https://www.getrevue.co/profile/next-jeff-selingo/

If you are apply from the DMV region, you better have a test score or it will count against you because most of your peers will have one........unless you are a URM and the school need URM to "shape" the class of 2022.

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't it really just means that the top students were able to take and send tests. I think some people want to see a message/sign/reason where there isn't one.

The acceptance rate for student submitters is 100% higher than non submitters. You're lying to yourself and you know it. This isn't a sign, it's just facts.

Link to subscribe to his newsletter please

Doesn't it really just means that the top students were able to take and send tests. I think some people want to see a message/sign/reason where there isn't one.

I subscribe, and that was my big takeaway, too! Good to know.

Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness. Some sanity still exists.

Thank goodness, no one but you did not understand this all along.

take the test! take the test!

This is why so many "elite" schools don't want to report their applicant breakdowns of who applied test vs. test-optional correlated to their admits numbers.

Class of 2022: take a test

Thank goodness. Some sanity still exists.

If you get his newsletter, this was an interesting tidbit:

"By the numbers: In general, my discussions with deans at about a dozen selective colleges over the last few weeks found that about half of their applicant pools applied without test scores.

In every case I heard so far, students with test scores got accepted more often. In some cases, the admit rate was twice as high for students with test scores vs. those without.
Emory: Admit rate 17% (with tests) vs. 8.6% (without tests)
Colgate: 25% (w/tests) vs. 12% (w/o tests)
Georgia Tech: 22% (w/tests) vs. 10% (w/o tests)
Vanderbilt: 7.2% (w/tests) vs. 6% (w/o tests)

Bottom line: For students from the Class of 2022 who are applying to schools without a long history of test-optional admissions, it’s best to have a test score if it will help your overall case."