Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 11:31     Subject: Re:Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meh. No one really cares if someone got a standard or advanced diploma. Colleges look at the actual classes a student took and the grades they earned- plus they don't even know.



This. Nobody cares about the two different diplomas. Having the two tiers is just a way for VA to let some kids skate by not taking core classes all four years and to let schools off the hook for counseling kids out of a rigorous course load or not giving them the support they need to get through it.


It gives inept administrators something to brag about: "X% of our students earned this meaningless distinction!"

It's got jack to do with actual education or preparation for life beyond high school. Or perhaps there's some correlation, but no causation.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 10:21     Subject: Re:Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

Anonymous wrote:Meh. No one really cares if someone got a standard or advanced diploma. Colleges look at the actual classes a student took and the grades they earned- plus they don't even know.



This. Nobody cares about the two different diplomas. Having the two tiers is just a way for VA to let some kids skate by not taking core classes all four years and to let schools off the hook for counseling kids out of a rigorous course load or not giving them the support they need to get through it.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 09:55     Subject: Re:Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

Anonymous wrote:While I completely disagree with much that the VDOE has been doing, this I am not opposed to.

There should absolutely be more flexibility with the advanced diploma. My kid is 2E, brilliant kid but has dyslexia. He tried really hard with foreign language but the way his brain is wired he could not pass. Meanwhile, he was in AP classes and and loved academic challenges in any other way.

Ultimately though, even with multiple AP and honors classes, he still graduated with a standard diploma. That’s all well and good but is kind of a slap in the face to a kid that really meets the point of the diploma.


Same for my DC.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 09:54     Subject: Re:Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

Meh. No one really cares if someone got a standard or advanced diploma. Colleges look at the actual classes a student took and the grades they earned- plus they don't even know.

Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 09:09     Subject: Re:Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While I completely disagree with much that the VDOE has been doing, this I am not opposed to.

There should absolutely be more flexibility with the advanced diploma. My kid is 2E, brilliant kid but has dyslexia. He tried really hard with foreign language but the way his brain is wired he could not pass. Meanwhile, he was in AP classes and and loved academic challenges in any other way.

Ultimately though, even with multiple AP and honors classes, he still graduated with a standard diploma. That’s all well and good but is kind of a slap in the face to a kid that really meets the point of the diploma.




agreed.


Yup. The "travesty" people get outraged over anything - even things they don't understand.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 08:24     Subject: Re:Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

Anonymous wrote:While I completely disagree with much that the VDOE has been doing, this I am not opposed to.

There should absolutely be more flexibility with the advanced diploma. My kid is 2E, brilliant kid but has dyslexia. He tried really hard with foreign language but the way his brain is wired he could not pass. Meanwhile, he was in AP classes and and loved academic challenges in any other way.

Ultimately though, even with multiple AP and honors classes, he still graduated with a standard diploma. That’s all well and good but is kind of a slap in the face to a kid that really meets the point of the diploma.




agreed.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 08:21     Subject: Re:Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

While I completely disagree with much that the VDOE has been doing, this I am not opposed to.

There should absolutely be more flexibility with the advanced diploma. My kid is 2E, brilliant kid but has dyslexia. He tried really hard with foreign language but the way his brain is wired he could not pass. Meanwhile, he was in AP classes and and loved academic challenges in any other way.

Ultimately though, even with multiple AP and honors classes, he still graduated with a standard diploma. That’s all well and good but is kind of a slap in the face to a kid that really meets the point of the diploma.


Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 07:56     Subject: Re:Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

If you look at the actual change being proposed, it's about getting rid of the weak "standard" requirements and making kids take the core subjects all four years of HS (as in the current advanced diploma) but with flexibility to do CTE instead of the full 3 years of world language required for the advanced diploma.

The two diploma set up always seemed strange to me and in the presentation about this they noted that most states only have one diploma. They might offer added endorsements or other recognition for those families who feel slighted to lose the "advanced" label.

I think VA DOEs math plan is pretty terrible but this change actually is about raising the bar for those kids who otherwise get through HS with just the weak standard diploma requirements.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 07:46     Subject: Re:Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

The state is becoming really strange.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 07:23     Subject: Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l


Just more anti-Asian racism.

Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 07:21     Subject: Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

Anonymous wrote:How is that a “travesty”?

Do you even know what that means? Dumb Fox News-watching trash just wants to feel outraged over anything they don’t understand.



Anything and everything about this society is a travesty.


Otherwise why a cheating bastard gets a retake?

Or snowflakes feelings getting hurt so we have to accommodate them no matter what.

Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 02:58     Subject: Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

How is that a “travesty”?

Do you even know what that means? Dumb Fox News-watching trash just wants to feel outraged over anything they don’t understand.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 00:33     Subject: Re:Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

crabs in a bucket mentality....
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2021 00:14     Subject: Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

Anonymous wrote:Please explain this travesty:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-public-schools-end-advanced-diplomas-equity



Make it make sense. Try at least.


They failed to destroy publi education during Covid — although they came close. So now there’s this opportunity.....
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2021 23:02     Subject: Virginia explores plan to end advanced diplomas: 'Equitably serving the needs...of all of Virginia l

Please explain this travesty:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-public-schools-end-advanced-diplomas-equity



Make it make sense. Try at least.