Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren't opting out and if they are working they don't have time to search for a spot.

Do they have less time to search for a spot than all the other essential workers working in person? CVS spots for teachers only release at 6am -- are you working then?

Do grocery store workers go home and do 3-4 more hours of work answer emails and creating materials?

Most professional adults do. What is your point?

Anonymous wrote:In the largest ES, even if every teacher volunteered to go back, there wouldn’t be enough physical space to have 100% return, given the 3’ rule. We’re also told they don’t want to switch kids to another teacher (makes sense) and some kids will still stay at home. Sounds like a nightmare logistics problem.

Now it’s 6 feet. So there is no 3 foot problem.

At our school, I think all teachers but one or two are back for hybrid.

In the largest ES, even if every teacher volunteered to go back, there wouldn’t be enough physical space to have 100% return, given the 3’ rule. We’re also told they don’t want to switch kids to another teacher (makes sense) and some kids will still stay at home. Sounds like a nightmare logistics problem.

This has been covered ad nauseum here and elsewhere. The agreement with the WTU said teachers could claim exemptions thru Term 4/the end of the year, vaccine or no vaccine.

I'm not defending that agreement; just passing on the information.

It appears to be up to the principal as far as I can tell. Some principals are still allowing teachers to elect to not come in.

Anonymous wrote:They aren't opting out and if they are working they don't have time to search for a spot.

It's ... just not that time-consuming. I'm in-person and got a spot back in February when the process was a total cluster, as did many of my colleagues.

I think the issue is leave, rather than being a question of principals or the district calling teachers back. If a teacher has (or is caring for someone who has) underlying conditions that make return to work unsafe, my understanding is that they can request reasonable accommodation i.e., to continue to teach remote. There is a similar issue with FMLA, but I am not a teacher so I don't know if that gets them leave or the ability to work from home. The other issue is that the vaccine got emergency approval, so nobody can be forced to take it. I don't know if someone chooses to take the vaccine, if they are still high risk such that they can request accommodation. And there is the issue of, if a teacher has her kids at home (instead of at school) it's harder to bring them back to work, which perpetuates a circle of staying at home.

All this is to say, it seems rather complicated, our principal has said she's not sure all the teachers will even be back next year (scream face), and also maybe an actual teacher can clarify. But there is no easy button on this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren't opting out and if they are working they don't have time to search for a spot.

Do they have less time to search for a spot than all the other essential workers working in person? CVS spots for teachers only release at 6am -- are you working then?

Do grocery store workers go home and do 3-4 more hours of work answer emails and creating materials?

Oh good lord. I am a teacher and I managed to find the time to look for an appointment time and go get the shot. Teaching is demanding but the martyr act is getting really tired. Be a grownup.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren't opting out and if they are working they don't have time to search for a spot.

Do they have less time to search for a spot than all the other essential workers working in person? CVS spots for teachers only release at 6am -- are you working then?

Do grocery store workers go home and do 3-4 more hours of work answer emails and creating materials?

Anonymous wrote:They aren't opting out and if they are working they don't have time to search for a spot.

Do they have less time to search for a spot than all the other essential workers working in person? CVS spots for teachers only release at 6am -- are you working then?

Anonymous wrote:Its unclear to me if teachers are being ordered to come back to meet growing demand for IPL? Now that the vaccine is avilable to teachers, how they are so many still opting out?

I would love to know what school you are at where no teachers are in the building. Almost every single teacher at my child’s WOTP school is back in the building Term 3.

They aren't opting out and if they are working they don't have time to search for a spot.

I think this is unclear to many many people

Its unclear to me if teachers are being ordered to come back to meet growing demand for IPL? Now that the vaccine is avilable to teachers, how they are so many still opting out?