When will PVS stop marketing this waste of time?

Anonymous wrote:Swim Box can be a great option. Especially if your swimmer gets something out of the visual feedback. There are also a lot of coaches who offer 1:1 lessons at pools in the area. If your summer pool allows their teen or college aged swimmers/coaches to do lessons, we’ve found a lot of value in those. Swim Farm has also been a huge help for us during the school year and we did a number of 1:1 lessons with them. Highly recommend.

+1 on Swim Farm!

Anonymous wrote:Swim Box can be a great option. Especially if your swimmer gets something out of the visual feedback. There are also a lot of coaches who offer 1:1 lessons at pools in the area. If your summer pool allows their teen or college aged swimmers/coaches to do lessons, we’ve found a lot of value in those. Swim Farm has also been a huge help for us during the school year and we did a number of 1:1 lessons with them. Highly recommend.

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Swim Box can be a great option. Especially if your swimmer gets something out of the visual feedback. There are also a lot of coaches who offer 1:1 lessons at pools in the area. If your summer pool allows their teen or college aged swimmers/coaches to do lessons, we’ve found a lot of value in those. Swim Farm has also been a huge help for us during the school year and we did a number of 1:1 lessons with them. Highly recommend.

Pass. Not worth the money or time.

So where would you look instead to find someone for private lessons? How much should those cost? (F&F was around 150 for 3hr but only around 2hr water time)

Anonymous wrote:Session(s) began with a 20 minute dissertation about the instructors history and accomplishments from 3 yrs old to present. Motivation? Hardly. It was a snooze fest.

From warm ups through various drills the instructor was more inclined to text on his phone than observe and comment on the swimmers.

Each session ended with a 30 to 40 Q.A. Which, as with the introduction, was mostly the posturing of a self-absorbed narcissist.

Save your money and get local instruction.

Haha. This is funny and correct. Some of the instructors break out their “paid speaker” speeches. My kids went to one several years ago and said “too much talking, not enough swimming”. I don’t send them to swim camps anymore, they would rather go to practice.

Session(s) began with a 20 minute dissertation about the instructors history and accomplishments from 3 yrs old to present. Motivation? Hardly. It was a snooze fest.

From warm ups through various drills the instructor was more inclined to text on his phone than observe and comment on the swimmers.

Each session ended with a 30 to 40 Q.A. Which, as with the introduction, was mostly the posturing of a self-absorbed narcissist.

Save your money and get local instruction.

Worth it as an experience, not worth it if your motivation is to see your teen improve. You would be much better off spending money on a private lesson or video analysis at a place like SwimLabs. But your child won’t meet an Olympian in a private lesson.

I would do the Navy or Nike camps over the Fitter and Faster camps. My child did a couple and didn't get anything out of them. I agree with others that it's nice to meet someone who has been to the Olympics, but that's the only real benefit.

For a while they were the only option during the pandemic so my daughter did a lot of them last summer- I wouldn’t say they were worth it instruction-wise, but she did manage to make a friend or two and liked some of the instructors who had Olympic backgrounds. Don’t expect those times to change, tho!

My kid did a couple clinics a few years ago but didn’t get that much out of them. They’re too short (a couple hours) to have much impact on technique unless your kid is very quick to absorb the tips and incorporate them into lasting changes. As a PP said there’s a lot of waiting time plus Q&As. I think your money is better spent on private lessons. Or video stroke analysis which F&F used to offer periodically pre-pandemic. Their multi-day swim “camps” may be better than the one-off sessions.

My daughter did two, and she's about the same (BB/A/one or two AA). She didn't get a lot out of them, but enjoyed meeting an Olympian and I think it boosted her confidence. I just asked her last week if she'd want to do another, and she said no-- too much waiting around time. She did do them, though, when she was 12, so the teenaged sessions may be better.

Do Naval Academy instead. They are pricy for what you get and don't look that impressive.

Can anyone who has a swimmer who has attended anyone of them provide any feedback or reviews on these? Is it worth the cost? My son is 14 and typically swims BB and A standards