Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 10:52     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:
If someone run a red light at high speed under influence , s/he may kill a person in the next few seconds. I would prefer a police to stop this driver immediately. Cops also catch drivers with stolen cars when they catch drivers who run red loght or stop sign. Many of them are teenagers.
A ticket in your mailbox is useless.


OK, but they're not doing that.

Also, automated speed enforcement and red-light enforcement work. They are effective. Police officers can't be everywhere always; speed cameras and red-light cameras can.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 07:56     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:What is it with the entire county government having a bone to pick with LEOs?

Hans Riemer and Marc Elrich are currently having a Twitter fight over who hates cops more. No lie. And Jawando has been actively pro-abolishing police from the getgo. Why does the entire county government listen to the wokest of the woke and basicaly jump on the ACAB bandwagon instead of listening to ordinary residents, many of color, who want to feel safe in their neighborhoods and schools?


Ordinary residents are not speaking up. Where are you? It’s a bunch of loud extremists who are going to be the ones to reduce patrol in Wheaton and Silver Spring. Stop traffic enforcement. Pull SROs out of schools. And more. It’s unbelievable. The advocates and politicians are so trapped in their bubble, they don’t hear any dissenting opinions.

It doesn’t have to be less or no police to address racially disparate contact. These folks are apparently intellectually incapable of making program changes that would meet their completely reasonable goals of safer and more equitable policing.


Actually the idea is more traffic enforcement - specifically, automated traffic enforcement. Which removes potential bias from traffic enforcement AND frees up police officers to do other things.


That manages speeding and running red lights and nothing else.


???? That seems like a good thing to me, not a bad thing. Police officers won't have to manage speeding and red light running, the cameras can do it! Yay!

If someone run a red light at high speed under influence , s/he may kill a person in the next few seconds. I would prefer a police to stop this driver immediately. Cops also catch drivers with stolen cars when they catch drivers who run red loght or stop sign. Many of them are teenagers.
A ticket in your mailbox is useless.


Driving fast is a civil offense.
Driving drunk is a criminal offense.

Cops will not stop criminal traffic stops.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 07:53     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is it with the entire county government having a bone to pick with LEOs?

Hans Riemer and Marc Elrich are currently having a Twitter fight over who hates cops more. No lie. And Jawando has been actively pro-abolishing police from the getgo. Why does the entire county government listen to the wokest of the woke and basicaly jump on the ACAB bandwagon instead of listening to ordinary residents, many of color, who want to feel safe in their neighborhoods and schools?


Ordinary residents are not speaking up. Where are you? It’s a bunch of loud extremists who are going to be the ones to reduce patrol in Wheaton and Silver Spring. Stop traffic enforcement. Pull SROs out of schools. And more. It’s unbelievable. The advocates and politicians are so trapped in their bubble, they don’t hear any dissenting opinions.

It doesn’t have to be less or no police to address racially disparate contact. These folks are apparently intellectually incapable of making program changes that would meet their completely reasonable goals of safer and more equitable policing.


Actually the idea is more traffic enforcement - specifically, automated traffic enforcement. Which removes potential bias from traffic enforcement AND frees up police officers to do other things.


That manages speeding and running red lights and nothing else.


???? That seems like a good thing to me, not a bad thing. Police officers won't have to manage speeding and red light running, the cameras can do it! Yay!


Nobody is saying that is a bad thing. It's just not a comprehensive solution. Have you all read the task force report on public safety reform? It's a nightmare.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2021 06:30     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is it with the entire county government having a bone to pick with LEOs?

Hans Riemer and Marc Elrich are currently having a Twitter fight over who hates cops more. No lie. And Jawando has been actively pro-abolishing police from the getgo. Why does the entire county government listen to the wokest of the woke and basicaly jump on the ACAB bandwagon instead of listening to ordinary residents, many of color, who want to feel safe in their neighborhoods and schools?


Ordinary residents are not speaking up. Where are you? It’s a bunch of loud extremists who are going to be the ones to reduce patrol in Wheaton and Silver Spring. Stop traffic enforcement. Pull SROs out of schools. And more. It’s unbelievable. The advocates and politicians are so trapped in their bubble, they don’t hear any dissenting opinions.

It doesn’t have to be less or no police to address racially disparate contact. These folks are apparently intellectually incapable of making program changes that would meet their completely reasonable goals of safer and more equitable policing.


Actually the idea is more traffic enforcement - specifically, automated traffic enforcement. Which removes potential bias from traffic enforcement AND frees up police officers to do other things.


That manages speeding and running red lights and nothing else.


???? That seems like a good thing to me, not a bad thing. Police officers won't have to manage speeding and red light running, the cameras can do it! Yay!

If someone run a red light at high speed under influence , s/he may kill a person in the next few seconds. I would prefer a police to stop this driver immediately. Cops also catch drivers with stolen cars when they catch drivers who run red loght or stop sign. Many of them are teenagers.
A ticket in your mailbox is useless.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 20:07     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is it with the entire county government having a bone to pick with LEOs?

Hans Riemer and Marc Elrich are currently having a Twitter fight over who hates cops more. No lie. And Jawando has been actively pro-abolishing police from the getgo. Why does the entire county government listen to the wokest of the woke and basicaly jump on the ACAB bandwagon instead of listening to ordinary residents, many of color, who want to feel safe in their neighborhoods and schools?


Ordinary residents are not speaking up. Where are you? It’s a bunch of loud extremists who are going to be the ones to reduce patrol in Wheaton and Silver Spring. Stop traffic enforcement. Pull SROs out of schools. And more. It’s unbelievable. The advocates and politicians are so trapped in their bubble, they don’t hear any dissenting opinions.

It doesn’t have to be less or no police to address racially disparate contact. These folks are apparently intellectually incapable of making program changes that would meet their completely reasonable goals of safer and more equitable policing.


Actually the idea is more traffic enforcement - specifically, automated traffic enforcement. Which removes potential bias from traffic enforcement AND frees up police officers to do other things.


That manages speeding and running red lights and nothing else.


???? That seems like a good thing to me, not a bad thing. Police officers won't have to manage speeding and red light running, the cameras can do it! Yay!
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 20:02     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is it with the entire county government having a bone to pick with LEOs?

Hans Riemer and Marc Elrich are currently having a Twitter fight over who hates cops more. No lie. And Jawando has been actively pro-abolishing police from the getgo. Why does the entire county government listen to the wokest of the woke and basicaly jump on the ACAB bandwagon instead of listening to ordinary residents, many of color, who want to feel safe in their neighborhoods and schools?


Ordinary residents are not speaking up. Where are you? It’s a bunch of loud extremists who are going to be the ones to reduce patrol in Wheaton and Silver Spring. Stop traffic enforcement. Pull SROs out of schools. And more. It’s unbelievable. The advocates and politicians are so trapped in their bubble, they don’t hear any dissenting opinions.

It doesn’t have to be less or no police to address racially disparate contact. These folks are apparently intellectually incapable of making program changes that would meet their completely reasonable goals of safer and more equitable policing.


Actually the idea is more traffic enforcement - specifically, automated traffic enforcement. Which removes potential bias from traffic enforcement AND frees up police officers to do other things.


That manages speeding and running red lights and nothing else.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 19:51     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is it with the entire county government having a bone to pick with LEOs?

Hans Riemer and Marc Elrich are currently having a Twitter fight over who hates cops more. No lie. And Jawando has been actively pro-abolishing police from the getgo. Why does the entire county government listen to the wokest of the woke and basicaly jump on the ACAB bandwagon instead of listening to ordinary residents, many of color, who want to feel safe in their neighborhoods and schools?


Ordinary residents are not speaking up. Where are you? It’s a bunch of loud extremists who are going to be the ones to reduce patrol in Wheaton and Silver Spring. Stop traffic enforcement. Pull SROs out of schools. And more. It’s unbelievable. The advocates and politicians are so trapped in their bubble, they don’t hear any dissenting opinions.

It doesn’t have to be less or no police to address racially disparate contact. These folks are apparently intellectually incapable of making program changes that would meet their completely reasonable goals of safer and more equitable policing.


Actually the idea is more traffic enforcement - specifically, automated traffic enforcement. Which removes potential bias from traffic enforcement AND frees up police officers to do other things.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 19:48     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:What is it with the entire county government having a bone to pick with LEOs?

Hans Riemer and Marc Elrich are currently having a Twitter fight over who hates cops more. No lie. And Jawando has been actively pro-abolishing police from the getgo. Why does the entire county government listen to the wokest of the woke and basicaly jump on the ACAB bandwagon instead of listening to ordinary residents, many of color, who want to feel safe in their neighborhoods and schools?


Ordinary residents are not speaking up. Where are you? It’s a bunch of loud extremists who are going to be the ones to reduce patrol in Wheaton and Silver Spring. Stop traffic enforcement. Pull SROs out of schools. And more. It’s unbelievable. The advocates and politicians are so trapped in their bubble, they don’t hear any dissenting opinions.

It doesn’t have to be less or no police to address racially disparate contact. These folks are apparently intellectually incapable of making program changes that would meet their completely reasonable goals of safer and more equitable policing.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 16:06     Subject: Re:Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They aren’t anti cop. My family are full of educated Republican LEO in moco and 50% of the cops are very angry uneducated (and a few educated) Trump supporters who troll their social media. I know their fake (and a few real) names. It’s embarrassing.

Most the stuff that are being implemented cops support. When I discuss it with them individually they say “that’s a great idea” then when I say, that’s all the council or defund is trying to do they double back and create some vapid argument against it.

Btw, I do not like Erlich but FFS, we put forward Ficker who is a menace to society.



You probably shouldn’t be calling out people in your family for being “uneducated” with grammar like yours.


DP. There's nothing uneducated about "my family are." It's standard English English.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 16:00     Subject: Re:Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t anti cop. My family are full of educated Republican LEO in moco and 50% of the cops are very angry uneducated (and a few educated) Trump supporters who troll their social media. I know their fake (and a few real) names. It’s embarrassing.

Most the stuff that are being implemented cops support. When I discuss it with them individually they say “that’s a great idea” then when I say, that’s all the council or defund is trying to do they double back and create some vapid argument against it.

Btw, I do not like Erlich but FFS, we put forward Ficker who is a menace to society.



You probably shouldn’t be calling out people in your family for being “uneducated” with grammar like yours.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 10:18     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:I've seen the tweets, and actually it is a lie.

Everyone wants to feel safe in their neighborhoods. It's valid to examine policing practices that contribute to or detract from that.


I am the LEO family poster. Yes we do and I’ve wanted to examine practices for years, though moco is light years ahead of other forces like Baltimore. Just because we are not the bottom of the barrel is no reason to not improve.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 09:55     Subject: Re:Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

Anonymous wrote:They aren’t anti cop. My family are full of educated Republican LEO in moco and 50% of the cops are very angry uneducated (and a few educated) Trump supporters who troll their social media. I know their fake (and a few real) names. It’s embarrassing.

Most the stuff that are being implemented cops support. When I discuss it with them individually they say “that’s a great idea” then when I say, that’s all the council or defund is trying to do they double back and create some vapid argument against it.

Btw, I do not like Erlich but FFS, we put forward Ficker who is a menace to society.


This. 100%.

the republicans from MoCo need to start nominating a normal person. It'll still be YEARS before they win anything, but right now, we are just spinning our wheels with Ficker.

The goal shouldn't be to win any elections for republicans in MoCo. the goal should be to start changing the narrative, and win some elections in 8-10 years
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 09:53     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

I've seen the tweets, and actually it is a lie.

Everyone wants to feel safe in their neighborhoods. It's valid to examine policing practices that contribute to or detract from that.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 09:46     Subject: Re:Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

They aren’t anti cop. My family are full of educated Republican LEO in moco and 50% of the cops are very angry uneducated (and a few educated) Trump supporters who troll their social media. I know their fake (and a few real) names. It’s embarrassing.

Most the stuff that are being implemented cops support. When I discuss it with them individually they say “that’s a great idea” then when I say, that’s all the council or defund is trying to do they double back and create some vapid argument against it.

Btw, I do not like Erlich but FFS, we put forward Ficker who is a menace to society.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2021 09:03     Subject: Why is the Montgomery County Council + Executive so anti-cop?

What is it with the entire county government having a bone to pick with LEOs?

Hans Riemer and Marc Elrich are currently having a Twitter fight over who hates cops more. No lie. And Jawando has been actively pro-abolishing police from the getgo. Why does the entire county government listen to the wokest of the woke and basicaly jump on the ACAB bandwagon instead of listening to ordinary residents, many of color, who want to feel safe in their neighborhoods and schools?