Anonymous wrote:Someone explain to me how flights get designed! I am baffled. My kid plays on an EDP team that came in middle of the pack in the fall, in the second rung. But then they are in the top rung at a spring tournament. I don't get it.

There are usually three divisions at tournaments when you sign up - most competitive, competitive and least competitive (i can't remember if that's the term). So when your manager signs your kid's team up, they pick one of those. They probably look at who is in the tournament. So for example if there are no top teams, such as Arlington Red GA, Mclean ECNL, they might have you in the top division. They should be looking at who you played over the season and your wins and loses. That information should give you an idea of where to place the team. Once they put them in brackets, the manager and coach can ask to be moved down or up or even within the bracket. Not sure if they always listen to your request though. I would assume your coach and manager was well aware of the placement.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone explain to me how flights get designed! I am baffled. My kid plays on an EDP team that came in middle of the pack in the fall, in the second rung. But then they are in the top rung at a spring tournament. I don't get it.

Clubs that host tournaments will usually try to stack their bracket with teams they perceive as weaker, and put the best best best of the best all in top bracket (so they beat each other). This gives a great chance of GotSoccer points; which they use as value for when they participate in other events (Disney, Surf, etc). It's just a matter of manipulation to help themselves while often attempting to hinder others.

Lots of tournaments coming up. can you please point us to an example where this is happening? If not, just STFU with your nonsense.

Your wife is cheating on you.

And your husband is STILL spending your half of the assets.

McLean Cup? Is your kid on my son’s team ?

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Anonymous wrote:Wait Im confused here.
your team has been moved up to play in the best bracket and your complaining? Isn't that the goal to play at the highest level competition you can? I hope your not a trophy parent who would rather win in a lower bracket and pat your kid on the back than compete in the big bracket to win with the best.

Im mean thats like Man City saying lets play in the second division and win rather than compete for the big trophy.

Not the OP. Parent could also just want their kid to play in the appropriate environment.

You look at the overall level of all the entrants. Maybe, just maybe, your kid's team is one of the top 6-8 teams in the tournament even though they played EDP D2 last Fall. If that is the case, they belong in D1 of the tournament. If you are seeing much stronger teams in D2, then there might be a problem. With that said, your team manager had a first look at the brackets before they became final I'm sure. Your team manager could have requested a lower bracket if he/she felt it was appropriate. Have you spoken about this with your coach or team manager? Maybe they wanted to push the kids. Maybe they are a top 8 team.

OP here- I'm not actually complaining, just confused. I just don't get how it works.

Rule of thumb: it's revenue first, kids' experience second.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone explain to me how flights get designed! I am baffled. My kid plays on an EDP team that came in middle of the pack in the fall, in the second rung. But then they are in the top rung at a spring tournament. I don't get it.

Clubs that host tournaments will usually try to stack their bracket with teams they perceive as weaker, and put the best best best of the best all in top bracket (so they beat each other). This gives a great chance of GotSoccer points; which they use as value for when they participate in other events (Disney, Surf, etc). It's just a matter of manipulation to help themselves while often attempting to hinder others.

Lots of tournaments coming up. can you please point us to an example where this is happening? If not, just STFU with your nonsense.

Your wife is cheating on you.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait Im confused here.
your team has been moved up to play in the best bracket and your complaining? Isn't that the goal to play at the highest level competition you can? I hope your not a trophy parent who would rather win in a lower bracket and pat your kid on the back than compete in the big bracket to win with the best.

Im mean thats like Man City saying lets play in the second division and win rather than compete for the big trophy.

Not the OP. Parent could also just want their kid to play in the appropriate environment.

You look at the overall level of all the entrants. Maybe, just maybe, your kid's team is one of the top 6-8 teams in the tournament even though they played EDP D2 last Fall. If that is the case, they belong in D1 of the tournament. If you are seeing much stronger teams in D2, then there might be a problem. With that said, your team manager had a first look at the brackets before they became final I'm sure. Your team manager could have requested a lower bracket if he/she felt it was appropriate. Have you spoken about this with your coach or team manager? Maybe they wanted to push the kids. Maybe they are a top 8 team.

Once you say 'maybe' you're defining the setting, which, may be different than the OPs. So you're right. Maybe. And the counter to that.... "maybe not".

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Anonymous wrote:Wait Im confused here.
your team has been moved up to play in the best bracket and your complaining? Isn't that the goal to play at the highest level competition you can? I hope your not a trophy parent who would rather win in a lower bracket and pat your kid on the back than compete in the big bracket to win with the best.

Im mean thats like Man City saying lets play in the second division and win rather than compete for the big trophy.

Not the OP. Parent could also just want their kid to play in the appropriate environment.

You look at the overall level of all the entrants. Maybe, just maybe, your kid's team is one of the top 6-8 teams in the tournament even though they played EDP D2 last Fall. If that is the case, they belong in D1 of the tournament. If you are seeing much stronger teams in D2, then there might be a problem. With that said, your team manager had a first look at the brackets before they became final I'm sure. Your team manager could have requested a lower bracket if he/she felt it was appropriate. Have you spoken about this with your coach or team manager? Maybe they wanted to push the kids. Maybe they are a top 8 team.

OP here- I'm not actually complaining, just confused. I just don't get how it works.

Well tournament directors or age group coordinators look at all the teams that applied and normally try to put the top 8 in D1, the next 8 in D2 and so on. Sometimes numbers don't work out and they need flights of 6 or even 5. How do they determine the top 8, etc. Well they used Got Soccer. Got Soccer ranks teams based on tournaments wins and other things. Not too reliable for the most part. There is also a ranking system called Youth soccer Rankings that is much better than GotSoccer but still not perfect. They then look at the bubble teams and look at their league (ECNL, CCL, and EDP teams get more credibility than NCSL) But if it's a local tournament, then the research should be fairly easy. Also, when team managers register, they fill out what level of competitiveness they are looking for. So they use all of these to decide.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait Im confused here.
your team has been moved up to play in the best bracket and your complaining? Isn't that the goal to play at the highest level competition you can? I hope your not a trophy parent who would rather win in a lower bracket and pat your kid on the back than compete in the big bracket to win with the best.

Im mean thats like Man City saying lets play in the second division and win rather than compete for the big trophy.

Not the OP. Parent could also just want their kid to play in the appropriate environment.

The appropriate environment is the age bracket. your competing in competitive sports no recreational sports. If your not wanting to compete then why enter a tournament? There only one winner but in order to be the best you gotta beat the best.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait Im confused here.
your team has been moved up to play in the best bracket and your complaining? Isn't that the goal to play at the highest level competition you can? I hope your not a trophy parent who would rather win in a lower bracket and pat your kid on the back than compete in the big bracket to win with the best.

Im mean thats like Man City saying lets play in the second division and win rather than compete for the big trophy.

Not the OP. Parent could also just want their kid to play in the appropriate environment.

You look at the overall level of all the entrants. Maybe, just maybe, your kid's team is one of the top 6-8 teams in the tournament even though they played EDP D2 last Fall. If that is the case, they belong in D1 of the tournament. If you are seeing much stronger teams in D2, then there might be a problem. With that said, your team manager had a first look at the brackets before they became final I'm sure. Your team manager could have requested a lower bracket if he/she felt it was appropriate. Have you spoken about this with your coach or team manager? Maybe they wanted to push the kids. Maybe they are a top 8 team.

OP here- I'm not actually complaining, just confused. I just don't get how it works.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone explain to me how flights get designed! I am baffled. My kid plays on an EDP team that came in middle of the pack in the fall, in the second rung. But then they are in the top rung at a spring tournament. I don't get it.

Clubs that host tournaments will usually try to stack their bracket with teams they perceive as weaker, and put the best best best of the best all in top bracket (so they beat each other). This gives a great chance of GotSoccer points; which they use as value for when they participate in other events (Disney, Surf, etc). It's just a matter of manipulation to help themselves while often attempting to hinder others.

Lots of tournaments coming up. can you please point us to an example where this is happening? If not, just STFU with your nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait Im confused here.
your team has been moved up to play in the best bracket and your complaining? Isn't that the goal to play at the highest level competition you can? I hope your not a trophy parent who would rather win in a lower bracket and pat your kid on the back than compete in the big bracket to win with the best.

Im mean thats like Man City saying lets play in the second division and win rather than compete for the big trophy.

Not the OP. Parent could also just want their kid to play in the appropriate environment.

You look at the overall level of all the entrants. Maybe, just maybe, your kid's team is one of the top 6-8 teams in the tournament even though they played EDP D2 last Fall. If that is the case, they belong in D1 of the tournament. If you are seeing much stronger teams in D2, then there might be a problem. With that said, your team manager had a first look at the brackets before they became final I'm sure. Your team manager could have requested a lower bracket if he/she felt it was appropriate. Have you spoken about this with your coach or team manager? Maybe they wanted to push the kids. Maybe they are a top 8 team.

Anonymous wrote:Wait Im confused here.
your team has been moved up to play in the best bracket and your complaining? Isn't that the goal to play at the highest level competition you can? I hope your not a trophy parent who would rather win in a lower bracket and pat your kid on the back than compete in the big bracket to win with the best.

Im mean thats like Man City saying lets play in the second division and win rather than compete for the big trophy.

Not the OP. Parent could also just want their kid to play in the appropriate environment.

Wait Im confused here.
your team has been moved up to play in the best bracket and your complaining? Isn't that the goal to play at the highest level competition you can? I hope your not a trophy parent who would rather win in a lower bracket and pat your kid on the back than compete in the big bracket to win with the best.

Im mean thats like Man City saying lets play in the second division and win rather than compete for the big trophy.

Anonymous wrote:Someone explain to me how flights get designed! I am baffled. My kid plays on an EDP team that came in middle of the pack in the fall, in the second rung. But then they are in the top rung at a spring tournament. I don't get it.

Clubs that host tournaments will usually try to stack their bracket with teams they perceive as weaker, and put the best best best of the best all in top bracket (so they beat each other). This gives a great chance of GotSoccer points; which they use as value for when they participate in other events (Disney, Surf, etc). It's just a matter of manipulation to help themselves while often attempting to hinder others.

Someone explain to me how flights get designed! I am baffled. My kid plays on an EDP team that came in middle of the pack in the fall, in the second rung. But then they are in the top rung at a spring tournament. I don't get it.