Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’d think the health of our kids would be more important than some percentage points.

People, it’s a pandemic. Who cares about test scores?? I just want my kids to live and not have adverse long term side effects.

Not being able to read is much more likely to cause adverse long term side effects for the average child than Covid-19.

Newsflash: these problems existed before the pandemic (just look at the data from beforehand). What were all you “reopen the schools for the sake of the poor minority children” folks saying then? What were you doing about it?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. So my issue is the majority of people crying about “learning loss” don’t actually care, they’re just using Black and Brown people as a tool in their game.

What were you doing to help pre-pandemic? Probably not working in education. Pre-pandemic, I was teaching in high needs schools and then doing education pro bono work. What do you have to say to me now? Most of the time I support the public school system as trying to do what is best for kids - but I’ll speak up on behalf of kids when needed. That’s how I link my prior and current activism.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’d think the health of our kids would be more important than some percentage points.

People, it’s a pandemic. Who cares about test scores?? I just want my kids to live and not have adverse long term side effects.

Not being able to read is much more likely to cause adverse long term side effects for the average child than Covid-19.

Newsflash: these problems existed before the pandemic (just look at the data from beforehand). What were all you “reopen the schools for the sake of the poor minority children” folks saying then? What were you doing about it?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. So my issue is the majority of people crying about “learning loss” don’t actually care, they’re just using Black and Brown people as a tool in their game.

Anonymous wrote:This data is really really bad. As an ECE teacher I can tell you that the effects of lower literacy levels in early childhood have enormous cascading effects. These gaps are difficult to address without intensive effort from specialists. That is expensive and time-consuming and not something that we can do on a system-wide scale.

There will be more dropouts. There will be more kids who can't read anywhere near grade level in a few years. Sadly these will be the kids who are being left behind mostly poor kids and POC.

These were just the kids who were tested. There were a significant number of kids from my school who didn't take the tests. The general consensus is that they were weaker students, the ones who we really need to reach but can't through virtual learning.

I feel really sad right now

+1000

Thank you for writing this. There are so many studies showing the effects of low literacy levels in younger grades. I think third grade is kind of that pivotal turning point where without intensive remediation and support, you can predict the likelihood of a kid not graduating high school. This will affect these children for the rest of their lives.

Anonymous wrote:You’d think the health of our kids would be more important than some percentage points.

People, it’s a pandemic. Who cares about test scores?? I just want my kids to live and not have adverse long term side effects.

Not being able to read is much more likely to cause adverse long term side effects for the average child than Covid-19.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’d think the health of our kids would be more important than some percentage points.

People, it’s a pandemic. Who cares about test scores?? I just want my kids to live and not have adverse long term side effects.

another joker

also it's like people here forget that test scores are meant to represent important information. the number means something important to measure--early childhood literacy, which is arguably the most important predictor (outside of a zip code) of future academic success.

This data is really really bad. As an ECE teacher I can tell you that the effects of lower literacy levels in early childhood have enormous cascading effects. These gaps are difficult to address without intensive effort from specialists. That is expensive and time-consuming and not something that we can do on a system-wide scale.

There will be more dropouts. There will be more kids who can't read anywhere near grade level in a few years. Sadly these will be the kids who are being left behind mostly poor kids and POC.

These were just the kids who were tested. There were a significant number of kids from my school who didn't take the tests. The general consensus is that they were weaker students, the ones who we really need to reach but can't through virtual learning.

I feel really sad right now

Anonymous wrote:You’d think the health of our kids would be more important than some percentage points.

People, it’s a pandemic. Who cares about test scores?? I just want my kids to live and not have adverse long term side effects.

another joker

You’d think the health of our kids would be more important than some percentage points.

People, it’s a pandemic. Who cares about test scores?? I just want my kids to live and not have adverse long term side effects.

you guys are hilarious.

but more seriously - I am surprised the loss isn’t even worse. also wondering about older kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Learning loss is a tool used to sell tests. It’s not a real educational concept

None of this data is valid based on the means it was collected

I was prepared to get mad at you but then I realized 1. you are not a very convincing troll or 2. you actually live in a world where words and ideas don't have meanings and are nonreferential.

And I thought to myself, man...it's got to suck living in a world where you lack the ability to construct meaning based on frameworks and concepts. So you know, good job. You did string words together an a grammatical structure.

Anonymous wrote:Learning loss is a tool used to sell tests. It’s not a real educational concept

None of this data is valid based on the means it was collected

Sure, Jan.

Learning loss is a tool used to sell tests. It’s not a real educational concept

None of this data is valid based on the means it was collected

Also more results of from the surveys of students, starting at about 30:00 of this video recording of the DC Committee of the Whole meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxVilgE9G6Y

See pages 4-5 and 12-14.

"Overall 11% point drop in students meeting benchmarks on DIBELS in grades K-2 at the beginning of year (BOY) compared to last year at BOY;
in Kindergarten there is an 11% point drop, in 1st grade a 12% point drop, and in 2nd grade a 7% point drop.
● Cohort to cohort comparisons from last year’s mid-year point to BOY this year show a 20%-point drop in the % of 1st graders meeting benchmarks at BOY compared to their 19-20
performance as middle of year (MOY) K students.
● 15%-point drop in this year’s 2nd-grade cohort meeting benchmarks at BOY compared to their performance as 1st-grade students at MOY in 19-20.
● Achievement gaps in early literacy (K-2) have grown during the pandemic:
○ The early literacy gap between Black and White students has grown from 28% to 35%.
○ The early literacy gap between Latino and White students has grown from 30% to 37%.
● Black and Latino students (K-2) have fallen behind at a higher rate than White students:
○ Black students in K-2 meeting early literacy benchmarks have decreased by 14%compared to 6% for White students.
○ The percent of Latino students in K-2 meeting early literacy benchmarks has decreased by 13% points compared to 6% points for White students."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gb0k62G4R7a3spCuMu8H-EHJM_0oUN5D/view?fbclid=IwAR3DrfHJdHvMSs5pPzkWbOEN7VX5ZinHnVsGizd4sEdpXZaO6HMPIQZTgIg