Not sure who you are talking to, but Harvard Early Applications were way up this year to 10,086 from 6,424 last year. Don't think any perceived free speech issues had any impact, or the opposite impact of what you suggest.

Harvard is the most inclusive institution among HYP. Harvard promotes liberal ideals through debate not by attacking free speech. The young poet at yesterday's Inauguration is from Harvard. Sometimes it feels Yale or Princeton might get a little bit too far with the woke crowd.

What attacks on free speech?

Parler is gone and Dear Leader can’t tweet.

What is with all the MAGAheads on here lately?

Anonymous wrote:All the top schools are like this from Cali to Connecticut - Harvard, Samford, Berkly, Wharton, Yale. Nothing but a leftist agenda at these "top" schools

Princeton has gone slightly less off the deep end, but even they have caved on a number issues recently. Despite engaging in a very lengthy, detailed examination of Woodrow Wilson's legacy ~ 5 years ago and deciding at the end of that process to keep his name on things on campus, it reversed course after a couple of days of "reevaluation" after George Floyd.

I can see both sides of the substantive debate, but I do not agree with the thoughtless, immediate abandonment of reasoned past policy in response to popular pressure. It would have been better to at least pretend to go through another reasoned process that came to a different conclusion rather than simply caving.

Who has said what about taking away anyone’s earned degree?

Looks like weird MAGA doofus has relocated here. Should be fun to read its poorly-written diatribes. Sorry, please continue...

The Harvard brand isn't going anywhere.

As far as choosing where to apply, meh. The acceptance rate is so low it feels like throwing away the fee. Apply if you want, don't apply if you don't want. Find more realistic schools to concern yourself with.

All the top schools are like this from Cali to Connecticut - Harvard, Samford, Berkly, Wharton, Yale. Nothing but a leftist agenda at these "top" schools

Anonymous wrote:I have noticed several families with top students avoided applying to Harvard based on attacks on free speech. I thought this was interesting as these are really liberal people. They said that they are old school liberal in that they want everyone to speak and of course they believe their arguments will win out. I am wondering if Harvard is starting to ruin their brand esp when they are talking about taking away someone's earned degree. These families were troubled even before the latest attacks on speech happened. I don't have kids old enough but thought this was something we will watch in the coming years.

you should absolutely avoid Harvard even if they beg your snowflake to apply. The degree is obviously tainted in the eyes of people who care about free speech. The smart move is to start targeting schools now, have you toured liberty yet?

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Anonymous wrote:I have noticed several families with top students avoided applying to Harvard based on attacks on free speech. I thought this was interesting as these are really liberal people. They said that they are old school liberal in that they want everyone to speak and of course they believe their arguments will win out. I am wondering if Harvard is starting to ruin their brand esp when they are talking about taking away someone's earned degree. These families were troubled even before the latest attacks on speech happened. I don't have kids old enough but thought this was something we will watch in the coming years.

Nice story. Can anyone else see these 'families' or is it just you?

Not sure what you mean but just talk to people you know who you would have expected their kids to apply to Harvard. The press on Harvard intolerance is out there and maybe because Zuckerberg went there etc.

This is more of a thing at Yale than Harvard. The perception is that Yale has gone off the deep end into far-left conformity, whereas people at Harvard are generally so full of themselves that there is no way to prevent them from expressing their opinions.

Anonymous wrote:I have noticed several families with top students avoided applying to Harvard based on attacks on free speech. I thought this was interesting as these are really liberal people. They said that they are old school liberal in that they want everyone to speak and of course they believe their arguments will win out. I am wondering if Harvard is starting to ruin their brand esp when they are talking about taking away someone's earned degree. These families were troubled even before the latest attacks on speech happened. I don't have kids old enough but thought this was something we will watch in the coming years.

Nice story. Can anyone else see these 'families' or is it just you?

I have noticed several families with top students avoided applying to Harvard based on attacks on free speech. I thought this was interesting as these are really liberal people. They said that they are old school liberal in that they want everyone to speak and of course they believe their arguments will win out. I am wondering if Harvard is starting to ruin their brand esp when they are talking about taking away someone's earned degree. These families were troubled even before the latest attacks on speech happened. I don't have kids old enough but thought this was something we will watch in the coming years.