Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 16:05     Subject: Re:INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:While there are definitely pros for: Inova, the site owners/developers, the West End, Lincolnia and other nearby parts of Fairfax County, possibly residents near the current hospital, and the region at large (due to the addition of a Level II trauma center), there is also a major downside for residents of a large part of Alexandria due to moving the City’s only hospital further away to the far western edge of the City.

The current location is pretty close to the geographic center of the City.

For those in Old Town, Del Ray, Rosemont, etc, the new location adds significant travel time. Going via the Beltway and 395 instead of King or Braddock would help, but not if the Beltway or 395 are clogged. For many of them, it would make it as fast or faster to go to Virginia Hospital Center. Unfortunately, in an emergency, I suspect that AFD would take them to the new Inova rather than VHC even if VHC were closer/faster.

Having an elderly parent who lives in Old Town, I have mixed feelings about this announcement.


The Landmark site isn't all that far away from the current site. INOVA is also adding a HealthPlex in Potomac Yards.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 16:04     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a great use of the space.

That is not a desirable site for dense retail and residential. It's surrounded by highways without any decent public transit. It will never be a destination. That's why it's been stagnant for decades.

It’s not great to have a major employment center like a hospital in a place without public transit, though?


It will have better transit access than the current site.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 15:48     Subject: Re:INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:A hospital instead of a shitty mall no one has gone to in 15 years....hummmm let me think about that. And that area has more than enough low income apts so that isn't a need, what would be a better use? Another tacky mall or apts with 1st floor applebees


No, a first floor nail salon, immediate care, chinese takeout, and tax preparation firm. Yes, mixed use everything. More hair cutteries please.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 13:31     Subject: Re:INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
A hospital instead of a shitty mall no one has gone to in 15 years....hummmm let me think about that. And that area has more than enough low income apts so that isn't a need, what would be a better use? Another tacky mall or apts with 1st floor applebees
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 12:25     Subject: Re:INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
While there are definitely pros for: Inova, the site owners/developers, the West End, Lincolnia and other nearby parts of Fairfax County, possibly residents near the current hospital, and the region at large (due to the addition of a Level II trauma center), there is also a major downside for residents of a large part of Alexandria due to moving the City’s only hospital further away to the far western edge of the City.

The current location is pretty close to the geographic center of the City.

For those in Old Town, Del Ray, Rosemont, etc, the new location adds significant travel time. Going via the Beltway and 395 instead of King or Braddock would help, but not if the Beltway or 395 are clogged. For many of them, it would make it as fast or faster to go to Virginia Hospital Center. Unfortunately, in an emergency, I suspect that AFD would take them to the new Inova rather than VHC even if VHC were closer/faster.

Having an elderly parent who lives in Old Town, I have mixed feelings about this announcement.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 11:06     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a great use of the space.

That is not a desirable site for dense retail and residential. It's surrounded by highways without any decent public transit. It will never be a destination. That's why it's been stagnant for decades.

It’s not great to have a major employment center like a hospital in a place without public transit, though?


Not as much at an isolated suburban campus, our public transportation network in this area is focused on commuter movement into the District. They do still have buses for the type of limited demand that would be associated with a hospital.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 11:01     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:This is a great use of the space.

That is not a desirable site for dense retail and residential. It's surrounded by highways without any decent public transit. It will never be a destination. That's why it's been stagnant for decades.

It’s not great to have a major employment center like a hospital in a place without public transit, though?
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 10:58     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
Inova is not an acronym. It's simply Inova. Not INOVA.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 10:27     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
Oh that's smart.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 10:24     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:This is a great use of the space.

That is not a desirable site for dense retail and residential. It's surrounded by highways without any decent public transit. It will never be a destination. That's why it's been stagnant for decades.


Agree. Easy access for ambulances, etc., but unappealing for other purposes. The existing hospital is hemmed in by residential neighborhoods, and the West End has very few, if any, medical offices. Maybe this will attract more.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2020 09:44     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
This is a great use of the space.

That is not a desirable site for dense retail and residential. It's surrounded by highways without any decent public transit. It will never be a destination. That's why it's been stagnant for decades.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2020 22:52     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
I think that’s brilliant. Retail wasn’t going to survive there (look how Springfield mall is already going downhill after the redesign a few years ago). The Alexandria hospital was underwhelming compared to Fairfax.
greenpanda
Post 12/22/2020 22:42     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall...thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:They’re not moving to landmark mall.. They’re building a new hospital on the site of the former landmark mall. Big difference.


Thank you for the correction! I edited and updated the title so future viewers are not misguided
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2020 22:38     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall...thoughts?
They’re not moving to landmark mall.. They’re building a new hospital on the site of the former landmark mall. Big difference.
greenpanda
Post 12/22/2020 22:23     Subject: INOVA Alexandria moving to Landmark Mall site...thoughts?
https://dcist.com/story/20/12/22/va-alexandria-landmark-mall-inova-hospital-campus/

Doesn't seem like the best use of the space IMO. The current hospital site will get redeveloped for housing. Interested to see how the plans for the current hospital shape up.

edit: Any thoughts on how this new plan could influence growth / QoL or impact values in the west end of Alexandria?