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Anonymous wrote:Why would they lie about something so easily verified? Not sure about all, but some ivies have already stated if they will be accepting the same or less this year. There will be a well above average deferral rate this fall as well.

Well, for one, they lie about a lot related to admissions. Secondly, they don't want to discourage people from applying which would mess with their numbers.

I really doubt it. Yale stated they will take the same. Harvard said they will wait and see so I take that to mean they will accept less. Not sure what the others states but I see no advantage to these schools in lying about their intentions.

DP here. It is true, public perception is a huge factor in University PR.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they lie about something so easily verified? Not sure about all, but some ivies have already stated if they will be accepting the same or less this year. There will be a well above average deferral rate this fall as well.

Well, for one, they lie about a lot related to admissions. Secondly, they don't want to discourage people from applying which would mess with their numbers.

I really doubt it. Yale stated they will take the same. Harvard said they will wait and see so I take that to mean they will accept less. Not sure what the others states but I see no advantage to these schools in lying about their intentions.

Anonymous wrote:Why would they lie about something so easily verified? Not sure about all, but some ivies have already stated if they will be accepting the same or less this year. There will be a well above average deferral rate this fall as well.

Well, for one, they lie about a lot related to admissions. Secondly, they don't want to discourage people from applying which would mess with their numbers.

Anonymous wrote:Any selective, Ivy-level institution saying that it doesn't is lying. All of them are capped at what they can handle. It's not like 8.01 at MIT can hold more people in the same classroom. Same with the dorms. They can't just find space for 300 more kids when things start back up in person.

If last year’s class was smaller, they have dorm space. And faculty can teach different classes. Those schools need thr money. If they had smaller classes last year, they will have bigger ones next.

They will need to shift faculty loads for the next 3-4 years to handle an outsize freshman class but it is doable. Expect more adjuncts and grad students teaching your students (all grades).

Most won’t take fewer students because they can’t afford it — they need total enrollment at its usual or even high number to begin to recoup revenue.

About 25% of our 2020% kids class took gap years.

Anecdotally, that sounds about right nationally.

Why would they lie about something so easily verified? Not sure about all, but some ivies have already stated if they will be accepting the same or less this year. There will be a well above average deferral rate this fall as well.

Any selective, Ivy-level institution saying that it doesn't is lying. All of them are capped at what they can handle. It's not like 8.01 at MIT can hold more people in the same classroom. Same with the dorms. They can't just find space for 300 more kids when things start back up in person.

This year is absolutely screwed.

Anonymous wrote:Duke has said that the number of students taking a gap year means they are admitting fewer kids this year.

That's interesting. I'm an alumni interviewer for them and they told us that there would be a difference, but not by much.

Hard to say. Liley the amount of deferrals in the fall of 2021 will also be higher then normal and there were also many more gap years taken by non first year students this year. Just a very unusual unpredictable time. Ugggg.

Harvard took 150 fewer kids this year during EA round (they had 300+ kids adjusted last year take gap years).

Duke has said that the number of students taking a gap year means they are admitting fewer kids this year.

This question was discussed extensively over the summer when class of 2020 kids were deciding whether to gap or not. The short answer is it may depend on the school but at least at some schools it won’t make a difference. Yale for example has committed to admitting the same number that they would in a normal year and in fact their early admits announced this week were bigger number than last year but the percent was way down because they got TON more applications. At this point schools going test optional is going to be a much bigger factor in their admit rates going down than a couple hundred gap kids

is that skewing admit rates for this year or are colleges shifting to accommodate smaller sophomore classes and larger freshman classes?