I keep seeing people (parents) going bananas over their kid getting interest from schools that are marginal academically. My kid has their list of schools they want to apply to and if accepted attend. They know the type of school they want to go to. I would hate for them to attend a small liberal arts school in new england area and miss the college experience they want. They could play soccer at other schools that are not very good academically. Most are not going to get any money to play.

You have to realize life will go on once they are done playing, sure play club in college, many great players do. Some club teams could beat the actual school team.

Play out your club career enjoy it, and if by chance the school they want to go to wants them great but I wouldn't suggest changing the college experience they want to play at a school just to say they played soccer in college.

Anonymous wrote:Please don't take it the wrong if it applies to your child, I'm just trying to understand something. I get using soccer as a way to get in to some of your top schools where grades may not be enough or getting a scholarship to play at a DI school.

Where is the value of a player going to a small out of state liberal arts school to play D3 soccer where they can't give an athletic scholarship. It basically sounds like continued pay to play but instead of 3-5k, it's now 10 times that. Is it because they couldn't get in anywhere else. Are they really going there for the soccer? Wouldn't it be better to go to a DI in state school and trying to make it on as a walk on. For example VA has some great in state schools that after room and board is still less expensive than an out of state tuition alone. There are also more degree options and resources at the larger schools.

We are just starting to explore this area of playing soccer after high school and was wondering if there is something I may not be aware of in the value of playing DIII.

I think the way to look at is, I'm going to get a college degree at a good school which happens to match my soccer abilities so I'm going to play soccer as well. Going to any old school for soccer is likely to be a bad plan.

Please don't take it the wrong if it applies to your child, I'm just trying to understand something. I get using soccer as a way to get in to some of your top schools where grades may not be enough or getting a scholarship to play at a DI school.

Where is the value of a player going to a small out of state liberal arts school to play D3 soccer where they can't give an athletic scholarship. It basically sounds like continued pay to play but instead of 3-5k, it's now 10 times that. Is it because they couldn't get in anywhere else. Are they really going there for the soccer? Wouldn't it be better to go to a DI in state school and trying to make it on as a walk on. For example VA has some great in state schools that after room and board is still less expensive than an out of state tuition alone. There are also more degree options and resources at the larger schools.

We are just starting to explore this area of playing soccer after high school and was wondering if there is something I may not be aware of in the value of playing DIII.

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I think you're overblowing it. Only a few will take schools up on that, and it is always up to the program to determine if a scholarship is renewed or not. For soccer, where the vast majority are partial scholarships, I would not expect more than one or two per school to return.

I don’t think this is right. Most of the players I know are planning to take the extra year, either at their current school or as a grad transfer so they can play while they get an advanced degree.

Evidently the players you know are all grad school bound. Taking a broader view though, most are not. I expect that many players are saying they will take the extra year, but that may be before fiscal reality sets in.

Still, rosters are going to be at least somewhat bloated for at least two years. It sounds like there may be some concessions from the NCAA that extra years won't count against scholarship limits (I haven't seen this formally), but I expect those extra costs would be borne by the programs themselves. Some may suck it up, others may limit 5th year scholarships (notwithstanding the P5 rule, which was created for a different reason, certainly not intended for this), and others may limit incoming scholarships, or some combination of these.

IMO, the eligibility extension was a poorly considered knee-jerk decision that causes the 2021, 2022, and 2023 incoming classes to bear most of the brunt of COVID effects. The P5 rule as posted above should not apply for extra years of eligibility to help spread the pain a bit. The NCAA should either let the programs manage their budgets and choose between funding an extra year or an incoming freshman, or fund directly extra years.

I think you're overblowing it. Only a few will take schools up on that, and it is always up to the program to determine if a scholarship is renewed or not. For soccer, where the vast majority are partial scholarships, I would not expect more than one or two per school to return.

I don’t think this is right. Most of the players I know are planning to take the extra year, either at their current school or as a grad transfer so they can play while they get an advanced degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, D1 schools are giving players a 5th year of eligibility, so many seniors will be returning to play next year. Thus, roster spots and scholarships will be extremely limited.

I think you're overblowing it. Only a few will take schools up on that, and it is always up to the program to determine if a scholarship is renewed or not. For soccer, where the vast majority are partial scholarships, I would not expect more than one or two per school to return.

This is an ignorant post.

Rosters are currently huge for many reason.

Seniors are one reason but the current sophomores and freshmen have hardly played so no losses due to cuts or injury.

Anonymous wrote:For a parent with a child considering Division I this has been awful and continues to be.

It is. If your DD/DS wasn’t on a coach’s radar this time last year, it’s been really hard to break in. It’s gonna be rough across the board.

This is a good read on COVID impact to recruiting

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/men/division-i-lacrosse-coaches-dealing-with-larger-rosters-tighter-budgets

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, D1 schools are giving players a 5th year of eligibility, so many seniors will be returning to play next year. Thus, roster spots and scholarships will be extremely limited.

I think you're overblowing it. Only a few will take schools up on that, and it is always up to the program to determine if a scholarship is renewed or not. For soccer, where the vast majority are partial scholarships, I would not expect more than one or two per school to return.

The bolded is not true in the Power Five conferences or any school that has opted to follow the P5 rule. You have to treat schools on a case by case basis when it comes to scholarship rules.

Anonymous wrote:Also, D1 schools are giving players a 5th year of eligibility, so many seniors will be returning to play next year. Thus, roster spots and scholarships will be extremely limited.

I think you're overblowing it. Only a few will take schools up on that, and it is always up to the program to determine if a scholarship is renewed or not. For soccer, where the vast majority are partial scholarships, I would not expect more than one or two per school to return.

Recruiting may happen faster for 2022s because no need to worry about getting in line for a campus visit—now it is all done via zoom.

Also, D1 schools are giving players a 5th year of eligibility, so many seniors will be returning to play next year. Thus, roster spots and scholarships will be extremely limited.

Anonymous wrote:For a parent with a child considering Division I this has been awful and continues to be.

meh. Everyone is in the same boat, it's not like your athlete is being singled out. What is worse than the delay is that scholarship budgets will be smaller, as will recruiting classes due to the extra year of eligibility.

For a parent with a child considering Division I this has been awful and continues to be.

Recruiting dead period extended to April 15th