Anonymous
10/23/2020 12:17
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
Anonymous wrote:
If they are truly gifted (only about 1% of the world is) then it will show no matter what.
The whole AAP thing is strange and that’s why most elementary schools don’t do anything like it. I’m assuming that parents in the area are just so intense and like having their kids do classes to get ahead, so maybe that’s why they bother to do it. I have no clue. But I can tell you most of the kids weren’t gifted. FCPS likes to overuse that word. About 1% of the population is and not because mommy and daddy prepped them for COGAT starting in kindergarten and makes them do more school all weekend...
Most elementary school teachers are pretty dim and wouldn't recognize giftedness if it bit them in the ass. Really, how is a person with an IQ in the 100-110 range going to pinpoint kids with IQs in the top 1%? They can't. It's why GBRS is completely worthless.
I agree, though, that parents in FCPS are very intense and want to brag that their kids are in the "gifted program." I've met many who talk incessantly about how gifted their above average but well prepared kids are. The parents are ridiculous. But FCPS also has exceptionally low standards for the gen ed track, and parents know that their somewhat above average kids are likely to be ignored while the teacher works exclusively with the struggling kids. It makes perfect sense for parents to push their kids into AAP in the hopes that their kids will actually be educated and not just sit around wasting time in school.
Anonymous
10/23/2020 10:08
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here to add, my kid is in 2nd grade and we are concerned this is going to affect AAP admissions.
Your kid is 7. OMG let them just be a kid and stop adding to stress by worrying about this.
Some of us want to make sure our gifted children are in the right environment, remote learning is going to end at some point.
If they are truly gifted (only about 1% of the world is) then it will show no matter what.
If you’re trying to prep them to get into AAP, then they may get in and they may not.
I taught AAP and I think the whole thing is ridiculous. Not every school district segregated kids in elementary school like that! But I can say that many of the kids did intense classes all weekend because their parents wanted them ahead, very few seemed naturally gifted, and others didn’t seem to be able to handle the standards. I had some kids who had distracting behaviors and I had to sit next to them to get them to do anything and the moment I left to help the other many kids they would stop doing any school work. They really struggled even after whole class lessons and me reteaching to them.
The whole AAP thing is strange and that’s why most elementary schools don’t do anything like it. I’m assuming that parents in the area are just so intense and like having their kids do classes to get ahead, so maybe that’s why they bother to do it. I have no clue. But I can tell you most of the kids weren’t gifted. FCPS likes to overuse that word. About 1% of the population is and not because mommy and daddy prepped them for COGAT starting in kindergarten and makes them do more school all weekend...
I have never in all my years of life, moving regularly, lived in a district that didn't have GT/TAG/AAP/whatever they called it. Yes, FCPS's AAP program is bigger than typical (because their general education curriculum standards are so weak), but gifted education is a thing in many places and law in Virginia.
Anonymous
10/23/2020 07:41
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here to add, my kid is in 2nd grade and we are concerned this is going to affect AAP admissions.
Your kid is 7. OMG let them just be a kid and stop adding to stress by worrying about this.
Some of us want to make sure our gifted children are in the right environment, remote learning is going to end at some point.
If they are truly gifted (only about 1% of the world is) then it will show no matter what.
If you’re trying to prep them to get into AAP, then they may get in and they may not.
I taught AAP and I think the whole thing is ridiculous. Not every school district segregated kids in elementary school like that! But I can say that many of the kids did intense classes all weekend because their parents wanted them ahead, very few seemed naturally gifted, and others didn’t seem to be able to handle the standards. I had some kids who had distracting behaviors and I had to sit next to them to get them to do anything and the moment I left to help the other many kids they would stop doing any school work. They really struggled even after whole class lessons and me reteaching to them.
The whole AAP thing is strange and that’s why most elementary schools don’t do anything like it. I’m assuming that parents in the area are just so intense and like having their kids do classes to get ahead, so maybe that’s why they bother to do it. I have no clue. But I can tell you most of the kids weren’t gifted. FCPS likes to overuse that word. About 1% of the population is and not because mommy and daddy prepped them for COGAT starting in kindergarten and makes them do more school all weekend...
I'm glad you don't teach AAP anymore.
Anonymous
10/23/2020 07:14
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here to add, my kid is in 2nd grade and we are concerned this is going to affect AAP admissions.
Your kid is 7. OMG let them just be a kid and stop adding to stress by worrying about this.
Some of us want to make sure our gifted children are in the right environment, remote learning is going to end at some point.
If they are truly gifted (only about 1% of the world is) then it will show no matter what.
If you’re trying to prep them to get into AAP, then they may get in and they may not.
I taught AAP and I think the whole thing is ridiculous. Not every school district segregated kids in elementary school like that! But I can say that many of the kids did intense classes all weekend because their parents wanted them ahead, very few seemed naturally gifted, and others didn’t seem to be able to handle the standards. I had some kids who had distracting behaviors and I had to sit next to them to get them to do anything and the moment I left to help the other many kids they would stop doing any school work. They really struggled even after whole class lessons and me reteaching to them.
The whole AAP thing is strange and that’s why most elementary schools don’t do anything like it. I’m assuming that parents in the area are just so intense and like having their kids do classes to get ahead, so maybe that’s why they bother to do it. I have no clue. But I can tell you most of the kids weren’t gifted. FCPS likes to overuse that word. About 1% of the population is and not because mommy and daddy prepped them for COGAT starting in kindergarten and makes them do more school all weekend...
Anonymous
10/22/2020 16:18
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
Anonymous wrote:I have no clue how this is going to work this year. No Cogat.
GBRS will be really weird because there is no way teachers can really get a feel for whether a kid is gifted or not through a computer. Are your kids meeting with the AART?
Not OP, but our school has the AART teaching the highest 2nd grade math class so she is able to spend a lot of time with them.
Anonymous
10/21/2020 11:15
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here to add, my kid is in 2nd grade and we are concerned this is going to affect AAP admissions.
Your kid is 7. OMG let them just be a kid and stop adding to stress by worrying about this.
Some of us want to make sure our gifted children are in the right environment, remote learning is going to end at some point.
Anonymous
10/20/2020 17:11
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
AAP admissions are already a giant crapshoot. This year will be much worse than normal. Maybe this year, they'll over-emphasize the NNAT and and have the first grade teacher heavily contribute to the GBRS. If so, that should help your child get in.
You could also use this as an example of how your child's needs can't be met in a regular classroom. "Larlo does not learn well with direct instruction and {give examples of things that your child is handling poorly this year.}. Larlo instead would thrive in an environment that emphasizes hands-on and experiential instruction, such as AAP {give more examples}.
You could also use this as an example of how your child's needs can't be met in a regular classroom. "Larlo does not learn well with direct instruction and {give examples of things that your child is handling poorly this year.}. Larlo instead would thrive in an environment that emphasizes hands-on and experiential instruction, such as AAP {give more examples}.
Anonymous
10/20/2020 15:41
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
Anonymous wrote:OP here to add, my kid is in 2nd grade and we are concerned this is going to affect AAP admissions.
Your kid is 7. OMG let them just be a kid and stop adding to stress by worrying about this.
Anonymous
10/20/2020 15:38
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
I have no clue how this is going to work this year. No Cogat.
GBRS will be really weird because there is no way teachers can really get a feel for whether a kid is gifted or not through a computer. Are your kids meeting with the AART?
GBRS will be really weird because there is no way teachers can really get a feel for whether a kid is gifted or not through a computer. Are your kids meeting with the AART?
Anonymous
10/20/2020 12:03
Subject: Re:Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
Print out the forms, have them do the forms using a pencil, email pictures of the forms to the Teacher.
Anonymous
10/20/2020 10:45
Subject: Re:Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
140 score on what, the NNAT?
I think you can still fill out some parent info with the application so you can note challenges with distance learning.
I think you can still fill out some parent info with the application so you can note challenges with distance learning.
Anonymous
10/20/2020 10:30
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
OP here to add, my kid is in 2nd grade and we are concerned this is going to affect AAP admissions.
Anonymous
10/20/2020 10:12
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
I have no idea, OP. My kid has done very little work. I had planned to see how the Cogat went and gather a couple things to submit in a referral. But there's nothing to submit. I have some stuff from 1st grade. It's as if this entire quarter isn't happening, for my kid.
Anonymous
10/20/2020 10:04
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
My 3rd grader is doing the same thing - if something's on paper (ex: I had to print out a practice sheet before her first math test this year) she will take enough time to do well. If it's Google Slides or Pear Deck or something, she rushes and gets a poor score. It doesn't matter how many times we her parents or her teacher talk to her about it, it isn't changing.
No idea how it will impact AAP chances for your DC, but I recommend making your kid write answers on scratch paper and then put them in online if you really want it done right. My DC's teacher has made them do that a few times.
No idea how it will impact AAP chances for your DC, but I recommend making your kid write answers on scratch paper and then put them in online if you really want it done right. My DC's teacher has made them do that a few times.
Anonymous
10/20/2020 09:57
Subject: Distance Learning ruining my Kid's AAP chances? Score 140 but failing distance learning
My kid has a 140 score and was doing very well in person.
With distance learning the teacher is getting online tests and other assignments handed in with failing scores.
My 2nd grader seems to be zooming too quickly with the online stuff vs taking time with paper and pencil.
Is this going to ruin my kid's app chances or will there be an exception this year with distance learning?
With distance learning the teacher is getting online tests and other assignments handed in with failing scores.
My 2nd grader seems to be zooming too quickly with the online stuff vs taking time with paper and pencil.
Is this going to ruin my kid's app chances or will there be an exception this year with distance learning?