Down with tipping! I also think benefits at a lot of workplaces should be taxed as well. Free lunches, massages, free daycare, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, everyone in DCUM is or claims to be a super generous over-tipper, so guess I'm alone in this, but...

I'm so fed up with this endless and ever-growing list of services that come with an silent mandatory +20%. Nothing else will do, otherwise you're cheap, rude, scumbag, not a decent human being, and shouldn't leave the house.

Put the actual prices that you want to receive for your goods and services on your actual pricelists, if giving or not giving a 'gratuity' is not up for choice anyhow.

If they're just going to increase prices 20%, then really, what's the difference to you? Just bad at math?

No, then you can make a choice beforehand whether or not to patronize the establishment without the shaming. I have been places where the default a certain tip and then flip over the Ipad and make you opt out of a certain tip amount in order to check out. The shaming and sleight-of-hand BS is out of control.

Agree with this. I also feel like people will turn their nose up at an 18% tip versus a 25% tip and wonder if it gets me worse service. I'd just like to know up front how much something is going to cost without dealing with this guessing game over what they are expecting me to add.

Your post is also reminding me of how much what a "standard" tip is keeps evolving. It was 15% and now 15% doesn't even appear as an option in some of the "default" suggestion amounts on a receipt. Some start at 18%, some even start at 20% and go up to 30%. If feels very nudgy and passive aggressive.

Tipping culture is just a big tax avoidance scheme for both employers and employees. Let's be real! And sure, you can tell me that they underpaid and deserve not to pay taxes. Well, my entire salary was taxed when I only made 34k (back in 2009, so not that long ago!).

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, everyone in DCUM is or claims to be a super generous over-tipper, so guess I'm alone in this, but...

I'm so fed up with this endless and ever-growing list of services that come with an silent mandatory +20%. Nothing else will do, otherwise you're cheap, rude, scumbag, not a decent human being, and shouldn't leave the house.

Put the actual prices that you want to receive for your goods and services on your actual pricelists, if giving or not giving a 'gratuity' is not up for choice anyhow.

If they're just going to increase prices 20%, then really, what's the difference to you? Just bad at math?

Is your post serious? Are you dumb or something? One is forced, the other is choice!

- np

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, everyone in DCUM is or claims to be a super generous over-tipper, so guess I'm alone in this, but...

I'm so fed up with this endless and ever-growing list of services that come with an silent mandatory +20%. Nothing else will do, otherwise you're cheap, rude, scumbag, not a decent human being, and shouldn't leave the house.

Put the actual prices that you want to receive for your goods and services on your actual pricelists, if giving or not giving a 'gratuity' is not up for choice anyhow.

If they're just going to increase prices 20%, then really, what's the difference to you? Just bad at math?

No, then you can make a choice beforehand whether or not to patronize the establishment without the shaming. I have been places where the default a certain tip and then flip over the Ipad and make you opt out of a certain tip amount in order to check out. The shaming and sleight-of-hand BS is out of control.

Agree with this. I also feel like people will turn their nose up at an 18% tip versus a 25% tip and wonder if it gets me worse service. I'd just like to know up front how much something is going to cost without dealing with this guessing game over what they are expecting me to add.

I don’t mind tipping at a restaurant when dining in or at a salon. I do not tip all these other random little locations like at the ice cream shop or at potbelly sandwiches. It is overboard.

Agree 100%. And there IS a difference between tipping culture and one in which fair compensation is built into the actual costs of doing business, although some people pretend not to understand it (or, in fairness, are perhaps genuinely too stupid and incurious to bother trying). Here's a tip: the latter is better for employees and customers both.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, everyone in DCUM is or claims to be a super generous over-tipper, so guess I'm alone in this, but...

I'm so fed up with this endless and ever-growing list of services that come with an silent mandatory +20%. Nothing else will do, otherwise you're cheap, rude, scumbag, not a decent human being, and shouldn't leave the house.

Put the actual prices that you want to receive for your goods and services on your actual pricelists, if giving or not giving a 'gratuity' is not up for choice anyhow.

If they're just going to increase prices 20%, then really, what's the difference to you? Just bad at math?

No, then you can make a choice beforehand whether or not to patronize the establishment without the shaming. I have been places where the default a certain tip and then flip over the Ipad and make you opt out of a certain tip amount in order to check out. The shaming and sleight-of-hand BS is out of control.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, everyone in DCUM is or claims to be a super generous over-tipper, so guess I'm alone in this, but...

I'm so fed up with this endless and ever-growing list of services that come with an silent mandatory +20%. Nothing else will do, otherwise you're cheap, rude, scumbag, not a decent human being, and shouldn't leave the house.

Put the actual prices that you want to receive for your goods and services on your actual pricelists, if giving or not giving a 'gratuity' is not up for choice anyhow.

If they're just going to increase prices 20%, then really, what's the difference to you? Just bad at math?

NP, I feel like that's the honest thing to do. Plus then they could pay their employees what they want to pay them and it wouldn't be on the customer to pay the employees. Plus the wages would actually be taxed!! I have girl friends who work at high end salons bringing home $500-1000 a week just in tips that they under report.

AGREE!!!

Preach!!!

Anonymous wrote:Of course, everyone in DCUM is or claims to be a super generous over-tipper, so guess I'm alone in this, but...

I'm so fed up with this endless and ever-growing list of services that come with an silent mandatory +20%. Nothing else will do, otherwise you're cheap, rude, scumbag, not a decent human being, and shouldn't leave the house.

Put the actual prices that you want to receive for your goods and services on your actual pricelists, if giving or not giving a 'gratuity' is not up for choice anyhow.

If they're just going to increase prices 20%, then really, what's the difference to you? Just bad at math?

We tried that with Prop 77 and the city council overruled it.

If the tipping culture annoys you, patronize businesses that pay their employees a living wage and provide benefits and make tipping optional, as it should be. The problem is that so many jobs don't pay enough to live on employers expect customers to make up the difference.

you must be my twin.

Of course, everyone in DCUM is or claims to be a super generous over-tipper, so guess I'm alone in this, but...

I'm so fed up with this endless and ever-growing list of services that come with an silent mandatory +20%. Nothing else will do, otherwise you're cheap, rude, scumbag, not a decent human being, and shouldn't leave the house.

Put the actual prices that you want to receive for your goods and services on your actual pricelists, if giving or not giving a 'gratuity' is not up for choice anyhow.