Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 20:37     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best does not necessarily = most selective.

And most selective does not necessarily = lowest acceptance rates.


wut? how come?

Many colleges entice large numbers of students to apply to boost their rankings and/or get application fees. Tulane is a great example of this. My daughter got AT LEAST 2 emails every week for a year from them plus many postcards in the mail. Indeed, their acceptance rate is only 12%. But that doesn't mean much because you don't know what their applicant pool is like. They are notorious for getting low stat/unrealistic applicants to apply just to reject them. Selectivity of the candidate pool is the first and most important factor. You can have a rock bottom acceptance rate but if it’s from a mediocre candidate pool, then your results will still be mediocre.

Limestone University, Ottawa University in Kansas, and Jarvis Christian College have lower acceptance rates (14%) than Tufts (15%), UVA (24%), and Notre Dame (16%). That doesn't mean they're better schools or more selective. Their applicant pool is probably just bad.


Yeah but everybody plays that game.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 20:25     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best does not necessarily = most selective.

And most selective does not necessarily = lowest acceptance rates.


wut? how come?

Many colleges entice large numbers of students to apply to boost their rankings and/or get application fees. Tulane is a great example of this. My daughter got AT LEAST 2 emails every week for a year from them plus many postcards in the mail. Indeed, their acceptance rate is only 12%. But that doesn't mean much because you don't know what their applicant pool is like. They are notorious for getting low stat/unrealistic applicants to apply just to reject them. Selectivity of the candidate pool is the first and most important factor. You can have a rock bottom acceptance rate but if it’s from a mediocre candidate pool, then your results will still be mediocre.

Limestone University, Ottawa University in Kansas, and Jarvis Christian College have lower acceptance rates (14%) than Tufts (15%), UVA (24%), and Notre Dame (16%). That doesn't mean they're better schools or more selective. Their applicant pool is probably just bad.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 20:13     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best does not necessarily = most selective.

And most selective does not necessarily = lowest acceptance rates.


wut? how come?
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 17:40     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
Anonymous wrote:Best does not necessarily = most selective.

And most selective does not necessarily = lowest acceptance rates.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 17:35     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UCLA is better school than USC. But it’s a public so. UCB is better school than UCLA if that matters.


USC acceptance rate is 9% while UCLA/UCB are both around 35%. Michigan is at 45% so isn't really in the conversation.

USC 11% https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=university+of+southern+california&s=all&id=123961
UCLA 12% https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=ucla&s=all&id=110662#admsns
UCB 16% https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=uc+berkeley&s=all&id=110635#admsns
UMich 23% https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=u+michigan&s=all&pg=2&id=170976#admsns

(I'm no fan of any of them, but it's better to be clear about data and where you are getting it...)


Interesting that USC/UCB/UMICH have basically the same SAT distributions, with Michigan slightly edging them out at the 25th percentile, and that UCLA has the lowest 25th percentile by a good 50-60 points
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 16:50     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
This must be the OP of the previous thread “Safety Schools for High Achievers.” The daughter will only apply to top 25 schools and trying to pick a safety (either USC, UCLA or Emory).
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 16:24     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UCLA is better school than USC. But it’s a public so. UCB is better school than UCLA if that matters.


USC acceptance rate is 9% while UCLA/UCB are both around 35%. Michigan is at 45% so isn't really in the conversation.


Those numbers are wrong to begin with. It just means they have more money to send out post cards to kids they have no intention of accepting. Even if the numbers are correct, it does not answer the question of which is “better.” Are you 16?
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 15:58     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
Best does not necessarily = most selective.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 15:46     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UCLA is better school than USC. But it’s a public so. UCB is better school than UCLA if that matters.


USC acceptance rate is 9% while UCLA/UCB are both around 35%. Michigan is at 45% so isn't really in the conversation.

USC 11% https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=university+of+southern+california&s=all&id=123961
UCLA 12% https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=ucla&s=all&id=110662#admsns
UCB 16% https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=uc+berkeley&s=all&id=110635#admsns
UMich 23% https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=u+michigan&s=all&pg=2&id=170976#admsns

(I'm no fan of any of them, but it's better to be clear about data and where you are getting it...)
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 15:39     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
It seems from our (non-CA) school's Naviance that UCLA is the more difficult to get into of USC, UCB and UCLA. But which is better really depends on what you want to study, don't you think? They are all great schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 15:34     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
Anonymous wrote:UCLA is better school than USC. But it’s a public so. UCB is better school than UCLA if that matters.


USC acceptance rate is 9% while UCLA/UCB are both around 35%. Michigan is at 45% so isn't really in the conversation.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 15:27     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
UCLA is better school than USC. But it’s a public so. UCB is better school than UCLA if that matters.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 15:23     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
"The best school among those ranked 20-25" is kind of an odd question.

If your question is really USC vs UCLA, that might make more sense (although in that case I'd say best is in the eye of the beholder).
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 15:19     Subject: Re:USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
Just wait til next year- the move schools around the list to sell more issues. (Psst, they are all good schools)
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 14:38     Subject: USC the best of the schools ranked 20-25?
USC has the lowest acceptance rate by a mile and the much highest SAT scores of this bunch, am I wrong? UCLA is way too high at #20, USC should be 19 or 20 and Emory right behind it.