Anonymous
09/24/2020 11:16
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
There are truly gifted kids all over the country and most do not have access to a TJ or Stuyvesant. So it’s absolutely true your truly gifted kid will survive without TJ.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 11:15
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Not this PP, but a DP who agrees. The reasoning is that African American, Hispanic, and other non-Asian minority group admissions have stayed stable over time. Asian admission have risen as white admissions have gone down. Why is it that the complaints didn't cause any real change before (except things like upping the number of admissions from 400 to 440), but now they are? It seems suspect.
because the NAACP and other groups are starting to focus more on institutions they think are the result of systematic racism - TJ stands out. I'm a white parent would would never want my daughters to go to TJ and wish the Board would focus more on getting kids back to school and less on being woke
There's probably a very vocal white population that has some influence and lobbied support from other groups that had a common cause. I get the PPs, I'm Asian (2nd gen) and wouldn't want my kids going to TJ either because trying their hardest they'd probably be in the middle of the pack there. I feel like the kids who will thrive and enjoy TJ are the kids who literally run out of classes to take at the home school. But we don't care, we don't speak up, so you only hear from the people who don't like the situation. And here we are at the TJ lottery.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 11:11
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt TJ Admissions need to be reset and diversity issues addressed ASAP. But what was disappointing was the callous response from Dr Braband to the question of the lottery potentially excluding truly deserving students. His response was essentially that everyone thinks their own kid is truly gifted and deserving of admission. And not getting into TJ is “not the end of the world”. Well if that is the case then what is the brouhaha all about? And there are truly gifted kids (not necessarily mine) that will be left out. It was sad to see an educator endorsing collateral damage. The end should never justify the means especially when the platform is one of fairness and equity. I was hoping they would consider some avenues for the truly gifted but the insouciance of the Superintendent on the issue was telling
They just want to pander to blacks and screw over Asians.
No, pander to whites through the guise of pandering to blacks, with the purpose of screwing over Asians.
I’m white but this is like, very obviously what’s afoot. How do people not get it?
Can you explain this? I am white. I have kids in FCPS. I would not really want them to go to TJ - too much stress, too far away, etc. Honestly, I don't know any white parents who want to send their kids to TJ.
What does this have to do with white people? I'm not arguing - I am literally trying to understand. Thanks.
Not this PP, but a DP who agrees. The reasoning is that African American, Hispanic, and other non-Asian minority group admissions have stayed stable over time. Asian admission have risen as white admissions have gone down. Why is it that the complaints didn't cause any real change before (except things like upping the number of admissions from 400 to 440), but now they are? It seems suspect.
This doesn't really make sense to me. It is clearly due to the BLM movement across the world. The school board is now entirely made up of very liberal democrats and NOVA in general has become very liberal.
I don't really think this is a white people thing.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 10:43
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:
Not this PP, but a DP who agrees. The reasoning is that African American, Hispanic, and other non-Asian minority group admissions have stayed stable over time. Asian admission have risen as white admissions have gone down. Why is it that the complaints didn't cause any real change before (except things like upping the number of admissions from 400 to 440), but now they are? It seems suspect.
because the NAACP and other groups are starting to focus more on institutions they think are the result of systematic racism - TJ stands out. I'm a white parent would would never want my daughters to go to TJ and wish the Board would focus more on getting kids back to school and less on being woke
Anonymous
09/24/2020 10:41
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt TJ Admissions need to be reset and diversity issues addressed ASAP. But what was disappointing was the callous response from Dr Braband to the question of the lottery potentially excluding truly deserving students. His response was essentially that everyone thinks their own kid is truly gifted and deserving of admission. And not getting into TJ is “not the end of the world”. Well if that is the case then what is the brouhaha all about? And there are truly gifted kids (not necessarily mine) that will be left out. It was sad to see an educator endorsing collateral damage. The end should never justify the means especially when the platform is one of fairness and equity. I was hoping they would consider some avenues for the truly gifted but the insouciance of the Superintendent on the issue was telling
They just want to pander to blacks and screw over Asians.
No, pander to whites through the guise of pandering to blacks, with the purpose of screwing over Asians.
I’m white but this is like, very obviously what’s afoot. How do people not get it?
Can you explain this? I am white. I have kids in FCPS. I would not really want them to go to TJ - too much stress, too far away, etc. Honestly, I don't know any white parents who want to send their kids to TJ.
What does this have to do with white people? I'm not arguing - I am literally trying to understand. Thanks.
Not this PP, but a DP who agrees. The reasoning is that African American, Hispanic, and other non-Asian minority group admissions have stayed stable over time. Asian admission have risen as white admissions have gone down. Why is it that the complaints didn't cause any real change before (except things like upping the number of admissions from 400 to 440), but now they are? It seems suspect.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 10:24
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt TJ Admissions need to be reset and diversity issues addressed ASAP. But what was disappointing was the callous response from Dr Braband to the question of the lottery potentially excluding truly deserving students. His response was essentially that everyone thinks their own kid is truly gifted and deserving of admission. And not getting into TJ is “not the end of the world”. Well if that is the case then what is the brouhaha all about? And there are truly gifted kids (not necessarily mine) that will be left out. It was sad to see an educator endorsing collateral damage. The end should never justify the means especially when the platform is one of fairness and equity. I was hoping they would consider some avenues for the truly gifted but the insouciance of the Superintendent on the issue was telling
They just want to pander to blacks and screw over Asians.
No, pander to whites through the guise of pandering to blacks, with the purpose of screwing over Asians.
I’m white but this is like, very obviously what’s afoot. How do people not get it?
Can you explain this? I am white. I have kids in FCPS. I would not really want them to go to TJ - too much stress, too far away, etc. Honestly, I don't know any white parents who want to send their kids to TJ.
What does this have to do with white people? I'm not arguing - I am literally trying to understand. Thanks.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 10:24
Subject: Re:TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
It’s naive to think this is just about your county or superintendent. Diversifying magnet schools is a focus all over the country right now, from New York to CA.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 10:15
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt TJ Admissions need to be reset and diversity issues addressed ASAP. But what was disappointing was the callous response from Dr Braband to the question of the lottery potentially excluding truly deserving students. His response was essentially that everyone thinks their own kid is truly gifted and deserving of admission. And not getting into TJ is “not the end of the world”. Well if that is the case then what is the brouhaha all about? And there are truly gifted kids (not necessarily mine) that will be left out. It was sad to see an educator endorsing collateral damage. The end should never justify the means especially when the platform is one of fairness and equity. I was hoping they would consider some avenues for the truly gifted but the insouciance of the Superintendent on the issue was telling
They just want to pander to blacks and screw over Asians.
No, pander to whites through the guise of pandering to blacks, with the purpose of screwing over Asians.
I’m white but this is like, very obviously what’s afoot. How do people not get it?
+1. As an alumna from the early 00s, I find it weird that all the documents only talk about the diversity problem going back a decade. People have been griping about diversity at TJ for at least 20 years. What happened in the twenty-teens? Oh right, the white admissions tanked.
I really don't care all that much about how the admissions process works, honestly. But I do think it's absurd that the truly gifted might be denied a chance to go.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 10:12
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is so similar to the SCOTUS situation. We have the votes and will therefore do what we want to do. There is no need to discuss - let us just ram our way through. My fairness principle is fairer than yours - no discussion warranted. The unwillingness to consider the fact that someone may be wronged is way it works in today’s ideological world. Another time they would still eventually do their thing but at least they would pause and listen.
Yes fcps is acting just like Trump.
Because this is how government in America now works, regardless of party affiliation.
Anonymous
09/23/2020 23:26
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:This is so similar to the SCOTUS situation. We have the votes and will therefore do what we want to do. There is no need to discuss - let us just ram our way through. My fairness principle is fairer than yours - no discussion warranted. The unwillingness to consider the fact that someone may be wronged is way it works in today’s ideological world. Another time they would still eventually do their thing but at least they would pause and listen.
Yes fcps is acting just like Trump.
Anonymous
09/23/2020 23:17
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
This is so similar to the SCOTUS situation. We have the votes and will therefore do what we want to do. There is no need to discuss - let us just ram our way through. My fairness principle is fairer than yours - no discussion warranted. The unwillingness to consider the fact that someone may be wronged is way it works in today’s ideological world. Another time they would still eventually do their thing but at least they would pause and listen.
Anonymous
09/23/2020 23:11
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt TJ Admissions need to be reset and diversity issues addressed ASAP. But what was disappointing was the callous response from Dr Braband to the question of the lottery potentially excluding truly deserving students. His response was essentially that everyone thinks their own kid is truly gifted and deserving of admission. And not getting into TJ is “not the end of the world”. Well if that is the case then what is the brouhaha all about? And there are truly gifted kids (not necessarily mine) that will be left out. It was sad to see an educator endorsing collateral damage. The end should never justify the means especially when the platform is one of fairness and equity. I was hoping they would consider some avenues for the truly gifted but the insouciance of the Superintendent on the issue was telling
They just want to pander to blacks and screw over Asians.
No, pander to whites through the guise of pandering to blacks, with the purpose of screwing over Asians.
I’m white but this is like, very obviously what’s afoot. How do people not get it?
Anonymous
09/23/2020 23:09
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt TJ Admissions need to be reset and diversity issues addressed ASAP. But what was disappointing was the callous response from Dr Braband to the question of the lottery potentially excluding truly deserving students. His response was essentially that everyone thinks their own kid is truly gifted and deserving of admission. And not getting into TJ is “not the end of the world”. Well if that is the case then what is the brouhaha all about? And there are truly gifted kids (not necessarily mine) that will be left out. It was sad to see an educator endorsing collateral damage. The end should never justify the means especially when the platform is one of fairness and equity. I was hoping they would consider some avenues for the truly gifted but the insouciance of the Superintendent on the issue was telling
They just want to pander to blacks and screw over Asians.
No, pander to whites through the guise of pandering to blacks, with the purpose of screwing over Asians.
Anonymous
09/23/2020 22:48
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt TJ Admissions need to be reset and diversity issues addressed ASAP. But what was disappointing was the callous response from Dr Braband to the question of the lottery potentially excluding truly deserving students. His response was essentially that everyone thinks their own kid is truly gifted and deserving of admission. And not getting into TJ is “not the end of the world”. Well if that is the case then what is the brouhaha all about? And there are truly gifted kids (not necessarily mine) that will be left out. It was sad to see an educator endorsing collateral damage. The end should never justify the means especially when the platform is one of fairness and equity. I was hoping they would consider some avenues for the truly gifted but the insouciance of the Superintendent on the issue was telling
They just want to pander to blacks and screw over Asians.
Anonymous
09/23/2020 22:40
Subject: TJ townhall/inequity vis-a-vis truly gifted
There is no doubt TJ Admissions need to be reset and diversity issues addressed ASAP. But what was disappointing was the callous response from Dr Braband to the question of the lottery potentially excluding truly deserving students. His response was essentially that everyone thinks their own kid is truly gifted and deserving of admission. And not getting into TJ is “not the end of the world”. Well if that is the case then what is the brouhaha all about? And there are truly gifted kids (not necessarily mine) that will be left out. It was sad to see an educator endorsing collateral damage. The end should never justify the means especially when the platform is one of fairness and equity. I was hoping they would consider some avenues for the truly gifted but the insouciance of the Superintendent on the issue was telling