Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 08:38     Subject: I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
Nah, this is about the American school system as a jobs program and cram schools providing a real education. The only thing ‘Asian’ about this is that my Korean American friends recognized this from their heritage country and adapted sooner. The faster the rest of us realize this the better.

We are on the South Korean model - where the kids sleep all day in ‘school’ but are educated in the afternoon by cram schools. Read the Smartest Kids in the World and you see what’s happening here.

https://www.amazon.com/Smartest-Kids-World-They-That/dp/145165443X
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 08:30     Subject: I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
Anonymous wrote:When our kids are younger, we did perp[u] them and, you know what? I am not shamed of it. They ended up getting magnet HS education, good colleges, and doing great - one phd engineering and two doctors. What I don't get is why people care about what others think or say. Do what's best for your kids. For those others? Who gives F?


I love your typo in the first sentence.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 08:28     Subject: Re:I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's racism and xenophobia OP.


Are blanket statements about all White people based on the Varsity Blues scandal accepted? NO

Are blanket statements about Muslims based on anything accepted? NO

Are blanket statements about Black people based on anything accepted? NO

But blanket statements, racism and xenophobia as well as legal institutional racism against Asians are readily accepted, encouraged and green-lighted in our society.

Welcome to the wonderful country you immigrated to!



Blanket statements about blacks are made all the time and accepted in this country. Muslims face tremendous bigotry in this country. All these posts about how Asians have it worse than all other minority groups in this country are misguided and make you sound whiny.


Open discrimination against Asians in this country occurs unlike discrimination against other groups.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 08:25     Subject: Re:I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
Anonymous wrote:It's racism and xenophobia OP.


Are blanket statements about all White people based on the Varsity Blues scandal accepted? NO

Are blanket statements about Muslims based on anything accepted? NO

Are blanket statements about Black people based on anything accepted? NO

But blanket statements, racism and xenophobia as well as legal institutional racism against Asians are readily accepted, encouraged and green-lighted in our society.

Welcome to the wonderful country you immigrated to!



+1
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 08:24     Subject: Re:I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's racism and xenophobia OP.


Are blanket statements about all White people based on the Varsity Blues scandal accepted? NO

Are blanket statements about Muslims based on anything accepted? NO

Are blanket statements about Black people based on anything accepted? NO

But blanket statements, racism and xenophobia as well as legal institutional racism against Asians are readily accepted, encouraged and green-lighted in our society.

Welcome to the wonderful country you immigrated to!



Blanket statements about blacks are made all the time and accepted in this country. Muslims face tremendous bigotry in this country. All these posts about how Asians have it worse than all other minority groups in this country are misguided and make you sound whiny.


Blanket statements about Blacks and Muslims are NOT socially acceptable. Do they occur? Yes. Are people that say these things canceled? Yes.

There is tremendous support from communities, local leaders, officials in higher ranks of government, by educational leaders, those in higher academia, in hiring practices across a broad spectrum of workplaces- for blacks and Muslims.

Discrimination against these groups gets rightfully checked. It’s acknowledged and people on every level of society are working to eliminate it. Again, rightfully. Allies are real.

Discrimination against Asians/Indians/East or South wherever- is condoned, dismissed, accepted and expected.

Xenophobic, biased, bigoted statements are made all the time against Asians and no one bats an eye. It’s that ingrained into the fabric of American psyche.









Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 08:09     Subject: I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
When our kids are younger, we did perp them and, you know what? I am not shamed of it. They ended up getting magnet HS education, good colleges, and doing great - one phd engineering and two doctors. What I don't get is why people care about what others think or say. Do what's best for your kids. For those others? Who gives F?
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 08:04     Subject: I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
What is purpose of admission change? On the paper it is for improving racial diversity due to lack of black and Hispanic students. That is all good intention.

Obviously those who blame test prep on Asian are likely white parents. To calling the current high Asia ratio in TJ is all because of test prep is outrageous. Their words show the real intention why they push the change.


Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 06:17     Subject: I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
Anonymous wrote:
We are Asian, do not prep, and have a child in a magnet program. While we are well-to-do, we also know very low-income Asian families who spend all they have on academics for their children.

It's disgusting that people openly discriminate against Asians, as if we were one cohesive group, who spoke the same language, belonged to the same culture, ate the same food, worshiped the same deities, or had similar political views. Asia is HUGE and DIVERSE. We are not inherently better at math or science. We work hard to achieve, even for those of us that employ rather more organic methods than straight-up test prep.

If some people cheated or nearly cheated, then punish them individually, and find a way to regulate entry into magnets that minimizes future cheating. But do so in a way that doesn't punish an entire continent. You did the same for multiple ethnicities that came before us: Native Americans, Blacks, various groups from Europe, and Jews. Have you evolved enough to not do the same to Asians?

Now you're saying Asians are treated worse than Native Americans. It is disgusting for people to discriminate against any group, so please stop trying to minimize discrimination other groups face by claiming you have it worse. Comparing discrimination against Asians in the context of TJ admissions to what Native Americans face is absurd.




Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 06:05     Subject: Re:I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
Anonymous wrote:It's racism and xenophobia OP.


Are blanket statements about all White people based on the Varsity Blues scandal accepted? NO

Are blanket statements about Muslims based on anything accepted? NO

Are blanket statements about Black people based on anything accepted? NO

But blanket statements, racism and xenophobia as well as legal institutional racism against Asians are readily accepted, encouraged and green-lighted in our society.

Welcome to the wonderful country you immigrated to!



Blanket statements about blacks are made all the time and accepted in this country. Muslims face tremendous bigotry in this country. All these posts about how Asians have it worse than all other minority groups in this country are misguided and make you sound whiny.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2020 05:53     Subject: I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
Anonymous wrote:Well the current proposal is to achieve racially appropriate representation, lots of people here blamed Asian family that they started to provide the extra academic help for kids elementary school.


I don't understand what's wrong with that. Do you want all human beings to be equally prepared for all things in life?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 20:17     Subject: I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
Well the current proposal is to achieve racially appropriate representation, lots of people here blamed Asian family that they started to provide the extra academic help for kids elementary school.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 20:17     Subject: I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that

We are Asian, do not prep, and have a child in a magnet program. While we are well-to-do, we also know very low-income Asian families who spend all they have on academics for their children.

It's disgusting that people openly discriminate against Asians, as if we were one cohesive group, who spoke the same language, belonged to the same culture, ate the same food, worshiped the same deities, or had similar political views. Asia is HUGE and DIVERSE. We are not inherently better at math or science. We work hard to achieve, even for those of us that employ rather more organic methods than straight-up test prep.

If some people cheated or nearly cheated, then punish them individually, and find a way to regulate entry into magnets that minimizes future cheating. But do so in a way that doesn't punish an entire continent. You did the same for multiple ethnicities that came before us: Native Americans, Blacks, various groups from Europe, and Jews. Have you evolved enough to not do the same to Asians?




Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 20:15     Subject: Re:I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
It's racism and xenophobia OP.


Are blanket statements about all White people based on the Varsity Blues scandal accepted? NO

Are blanket statements about Muslims based on anything accepted? NO

Are blanket statements about Black people based on anything accepted? NO

But blanket statements, racism and xenophobia as well as legal institutional racism against Asians are readily accepted, encouraged and green-lighted in our society.

Welcome to the wonderful country you immigrated to!

Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 20:06     Subject: I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
No one cares if you enroll you’re kid in kumon, people get mad when students are given supposedly non-public tests before hand or if your prep is used to demonstrate a desire to pursue stem - both are unfair advantages. If you do mathnasium to catch up, or get a head, or just for the hell of it- no one cars
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 19:59     Subject: I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that
My family is chinese and I have a kid currently in TJ and another 6 grade. I really don't like the test prep involved in TJ admission here in FCPS or test prep for NNAT or CogAT. I welcome changes in the TJ admission process to remove such "targeted" test prep out. A pure lottery system may be over simplify things so I like what FCAG proposed that lottery path can be combined with other admission path for the "truely" gifts . If a sort of test is needed just to establish a baseline for the other selection path , just do the standard test, e.g. SOL.

However I don't understand why some people would blame Asian families for registering/enrolling kids in academic related course offerings and consider it unfair since not all people can afford it. As the first generation immigrant, our kids do actually need additional help to overcome certain challenges as compared with the natives. For example, my older one cannot handle English writing and reading well, I was worried as I myself is not good at it too so I sent them to classed to improve English writing. II do know poor Asian families with single income living in condo and buying cheap cars without any luxury spending, however they still choose to invest money to provide additional help for Kids's academic. I don't see such efforts "unfair" to other families.

The test scandal is horrible however it does not represent Asian. Some of the posts in this forum is really hurting the feeling of Asian family. Most of us are just ordinary working class and we made livings without much help from the family.