Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of vehicle safety is about the driver. I’ve driven open top jeeps for years. With my kids and often with no doors. Have never felt unsafe. They are solidly constructed with great visibility. My daughter just got her license and with it her first jeep. The driving school cited it as among the best vehicles for a new driver.

I can't think of a worse car for a new drive than a Wrangler, terrible handling (at least on road where most are drive) and terrible safety ratings especially roll over which feeds back into the terrible handling thing

Have you driven one since 1995?

Anonymous wrote:Family member is right. I tell this to my family members also (I'm an engineer):
- blind spot monitoring
- rear backup camera
- lane-keeping
- panic braking
- collision warning
- side warning (when backing up)
- variable speed cruise control

So worth it. Look at this from Toyota for example:
https://www.toyota.com/safety-sense/

I was going to say all of this. Traded in my 2009 car last year and there are so many more features now.
Now does it absolutely make you safer, maybe. The driver still matters the most and I would argue that some features make driver more lazy (trusting blinds pot sensor vs doing a shoulder check). So I don't know that they are absolutely necessary but nice as a second check.

The new safety changes are not a substitute for paying attention. You can drive a car form the 70s and if you pay attention it is as safe as a brand new car with a driver not paying attention.

Anonymous wrote:Most of vehicle safety is about the driver. I’ve driven open top jeeps for years. With my kids and often with no doors. Have never felt unsafe. They are solidly constructed with great visibility. My daughter just got her license and with it her first jeep. The driving school cited it as among the best vehicles for a new driver.

I can't think of a worse car for a new drive than a Wrangler, terrible handling (at least on road where most are drive) and terrible safety ratings especially roll over which feeds back into the terrible handling thing

Most of vehicle safety is about the driver. I’ve driven open top jeeps for years. With my kids and often with no doors. Have never felt unsafe. They are solidly constructed with great visibility. My daughter just got her license and with it her first jeep. The driving school cited it as among the best vehicles for a new driver.

Family member is right. I tell this to my family members also (I'm an engineer):
- blind spot monitoring
- rear backup camera
- lane-keeping
- panic braking
- collision warning
- side warning (when backing up)
- variable speed cruise control

So worth it. Look at this from Toyota for example:
https://www.toyota.com/safety-sense/

It's not about any one specific technology, but better implementation of the same technology. Airbags, brakes, etc, have all gotten better, even though they were invented decades or centuries ago.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are driving around with kids in a jeep, yes, I'd definitely look for a safer car. That's borderline stupid.

A grand cherokee? It's not an open top jeep.

A Jeep, any Jeep, is not known for safety.

Anonymous wrote:If you are driving around with kids in a jeep, yes, I'd definitely look for a safer car. That's borderline stupid.

A grand cherokee? It's not an open top jeep.

If you are driving around with kids in a jeep, yes, I'd definitely look for a safer car. That's borderline stupid.

I have Jeep Grand Cherokee from 2013 with pretty low mileage. I am happy with it and have no need for a new car, but the dealership keeps emailing me to trade it in. I usually don't bite at these offers, but a family member told me that in the past 5-ish years there have been lots of safety developments and it might be worth seeing what money I could get for a car and then buying a used, but newer, car (not necc a Jeep).

Before I went down a google search hole, I figured I'd ask here. Does this even make any sense? I'm really used to buying a car in cash and driving it into the ground. (10-12 years of use per car), but this was pre-kids and I'm more concerned with safety than I was before.

Thanks!