Anonymous
08/23/2020 15:55
Subject: Pressure to win
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/why-street-football-still-best-154620296.html
Have fun telling the post-9/11 world to have their kids play in the street lol
That culture is gone, and probably not coming back (at least in its traditional sense)
What are you talking about? You think people don’t let their kids play outside because....they are worried about terrorists? Omg
Anonymous
08/23/2020 15:52
Subject: Re:Pressure to win
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think youth soccer development should be number 1 . Winning is part of development and yes its important. I think learning to win and taking pride in the work process go hand and hand. You have to use losing as a tool in development to drive yourself to be successful. The goal is for it all to come together. The work , the setbacks, the achievements , its all part of the process.
Absolutely, but there needs to be a place where players/coaches can try different positions, formations, etc. in a game setting and the scrimmages should be the perfect place for that. Yes, you should still play with intensity and a a desire to win. But, posting the scores on a forum like this without any background information about the game itself, feeds into clubs/coaches being pressured to not try different things because it hurts their recruiting potential since parents start to draw conclusions based on these scrimmage scores.
Unfortunately people cant look past the score. Coaches and parents who understand sports can. A good coach is just as upset about an ugly win as a terrible loss. But almost all will take that ugly win every time regardless of their soccer culture. The people who get it will be able to see the development as it happens in front of them. Whether its week to week or start of season til end.
Anonymous
08/23/2020 15:51
Subject: Pressure to win
Anonymous wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/why-street-football-still-best-154620296.html
Have fun telling the post-9/11 world to have their kids play in the street lol
That culture is gone, and probably not coming back (at least in its traditional sense)
Anonymous
08/23/2020 15:39
Subject: Pressure to win
Anonymous
08/23/2020 15:29
Subject: Re:Pressure to win
Anonymous wrote:I think youth soccer development should be number 1 . Winning is part of development and yes its important. I think learning to win and taking pride in the work process go hand and hand. You have to use losing as a tool in development to drive yourself to be successful. The goal is for it all to come together. The work , the setbacks, the achievements , its all part of the process.
Absolutely, but there needs to be a place where players/coaches can try different positions, formations, etc. in a game setting and the scrimmages should be the perfect place for that. Yes, you should still play with intensity and a a desire to win. But, posting the scores on a forum like this without any background information about the game itself, feeds into clubs/coaches being pressured to not try different things because it hurts their recruiting potential since parents start to draw conclusions based on these scrimmage scores.
Anonymous
08/23/2020 15:26
Subject: Pressure to win
Seems to be Girls parents losing their minds over scrimmages
Anonymous
08/23/2020 15:25
Subject: Pressure to win
Anonymous wrote:Girl soccer parents are nuts on this forum. Glad I have a boy!
Yes and amazingly, based on having both boys and girls, I’d estimate that the girl parents have about 1/10th the knowledge of the game as the boy parents.
Anonymous
08/23/2020 15:00
Subject: Pressure to win
Girl soccer parents are nuts on this forum. Glad I have a boy!
Anonymous
08/23/2020 14:56
Subject: Re:Pressure to win
I think youth soccer development should be number 1 . Winning is part of development and yes its important. I think learning to win and taking pride in the work process go hand and hand. You have to use losing as a tool in development to drive yourself to be successful. The goal is for it all to come together. The work , the setbacks, the achievements , its all part of the process.
Anonymous
08/23/2020 14:46
Subject: Pressure to win
Anonymous wrote:Are we putting too much pressure on our kids and coaches to win at younger ages.
We have 4-5 threads talking about results of pre season scrimmages. Not only are they pre season games, they are post Covid pre season games.
I read a lot of posts from ex professional soccer players saying results mean nothing until under 17.
Should the focus be on winning or making our kids better soccer players that understand the game.
I was thinking the same thing about the posting of scrimmage scores. I know many coaches who use scrimmages as development (as they should) and are not playing for the score line. The scores, on their own, should not mean much.
Anonymous
08/23/2020 14:42
Subject: Re:Pressure to win
Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans play to win all the time. The very thought of losing is hateful to Americans.
Anonymous
08/23/2020 14:41
Subject: Pressure to win
We? You’re not my kid’s parent, I’m not your kids’ parent.
Anonymous
08/23/2020 14:33
Subject: Pressure to win
You have no idea what parents talk about home with their kids. I post thoughts on dcum that I don't even discuss in my house. Maybe thats why pps come here? To get the info where they may not be able to go into detail at home?
I remember reading tons of threads to learn the levels of play at our club but my dc was young and I never discussed the colors with him.
I think your post makes alot of assumptions.
I remember reading tons of threads to learn the levels of play at our club but my dc was young and I never discussed the colors with him.
I think your post makes alot of assumptions.
Anonymous
08/23/2020 14:33
Subject: Re:Pressure to win
Should the focus be on winning or making our kids better soccer players that understand the game.
I mean, yes, but assuming the kids start playing at U8 or U9, by the time they are U13 or U14, they should have started achieving those things to the extent that they have at least more than 50 percent wins. Certainly not all.
Anonymous
08/23/2020 14:23
Subject: Pressure to win
Are we putting too much pressure on our kids and coaches to win at younger ages.
We have 4-5 threads talking about results of pre season scrimmages. Not only are they pre season games, they are post Covid pre season games.
I read a lot of posts from ex professional soccer players saying results mean nothing until under 17.
Should the focus be on winning or making our kids better soccer players that understand the game.
We have 4-5 threads talking about results of pre season scrimmages. Not only are they pre season games, they are post Covid pre season games.
I read a lot of posts from ex professional soccer players saying results mean nothing until under 17.
Should the focus be on winning or making our kids better soccer players that understand the game.