Anonymous wrote:This is such a common problem. Can you ask daycare to give the kid a book/silent toy to play with on her cot so she stays awake? One way to fix this would be to eliminate the nap at daycare since she doesn’t seem to need it.

Anonymous wrote:My almost 4 yo also doesn't nap on the weekend, but will get in about 45 min at daycare. Sometimes she skips it completely.

If you're starting bedtime at 8-9 and sleep actually happens at 10, try starting your routine earlier. I get my daughter home around 6/6:30 pm and we start setting the stage for sleep almost right away. She has dinner, then we go straight into bath and books, with sleep happening by 8 pm, 7:30/7:45 on the days she skipped the nap. Maybe your daughter also needs a long period to wind down fully?

Anonymous wrote:Mine did this- 2 hours - but I think that included the time getting to the room, finding the cots, etc. This is why I switched daycares. Because of covid my schedule is a bit more flexible so I am doing a shorter day. Her new place is 9-3 with a 20 minute rest time.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is almost 4. We are struggling a LOT at nighttime. It's almost 10 and she's just falling asleep. The problem is nap. Our school (it's new for us) seems to allow a 1.5 hour nap. That sounds really long. How long is your nap time at daycare?

Been a long time but sounds about right. There was maybe 45 minute nap in kindergarten. My teenager has turned into a vampire, up half the night. Sleep struggle is cyclical hopefully she grows out of soon. Good luck.

That sounds normal for me, too. She's probably stuck in a cycle where she's not getting enough sleep at night because she stays up so late (and then has to get up early enough to go to daycare, so no catch up in the morning). And then she's sleeping for the full nap time because she's so tired.

You could try doing a reset over a long weekend, where you move up bedtime to earlier in the evening, limit her to a 1 hour nap, and repeat for all three days.

I would bet most of the kids in her PK class do not sleep the full 1.5 hours, but I don't think it's weird to let a kid who seems to need it sleep that long, especially if she seems like she might be overtired from staying up so late.

But that's the thing...during stay at home order she napped NEVER and even on weekends she never naps. She goes to bed at a normal 8-830 on the weekends and sleeps until 7-730. So she needs 10.5-11.5 hours a day and when she goes to daycare 1.5 are fulfilled at daycare, so that only leaves 9 overnight. She wakes up around 7 at the earliest so that's a 10pm bedtime! Way too late! She just fell asleep and it's 10pm.

Do you put her down for a nap, or just let her skip it? Staying on the same schedule as daycare might help her get into a better cycle. Even if she won't nap at home, putting her in her dark room for quiet time will trigger her circadian rhythm in a similar way.

Otherwise, I suppose you could ask the teachers to wake her from her nap at school earlier, but that might be a tough convo. I know they can be pretty militant about the schedule, and they may use the nap time for cleaning or eating their own lunches and such, so it might not work to try and have them shorten up.

Sorry I can't help more. Good luck! Sleep at this age is always really tricky.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is almost 4. We are struggling a LOT at nighttime. It's almost 10 and she's just falling asleep. The problem is nap. Our school (it's new for us) seems to allow a 1.5 hour nap. That sounds really long. How long is your nap time at daycare?

Been a long time but sounds about right. There was maybe 45 minute nap in kindergarten. My teenager has turned into a vampire, up half the night. Sleep struggle is cyclical hopefully she grows out of soon. Good luck.

That sounds normal for me, too. She's probably stuck in a cycle where she's not getting enough sleep at night because she stays up so late (and then has to get up early enough to go to daycare, so no catch up in the morning). And then she's sleeping for the full nap time because she's so tired.

You could try doing a reset over a long weekend, where you move up bedtime to earlier in the evening, limit her to a 1 hour nap, and repeat for all three days.

I would bet most of the kids in her PK class do not sleep the full 1.5 hours, but I don't think it's weird to let a kid who seems to need it sleep that long, especially if she seems like she might be overtired from staying up so late.

But that's the thing...during stay at home order she napped NEVER and even on weekends she never naps. She goes to bed at a normal 8-830 on the weekends and sleeps until 7-730. So she needs 10.5-11.5 hours a day and when she goes to daycare 1.5 are fulfilled at daycare, so that only leaves 9 overnight. She wakes up around 7 at the earliest so that's a 10pm bedtime! Way too late! She just fell asleep and it's 10pm.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is almost 4. We are struggling a LOT at nighttime. It's almost 10 and she's just falling asleep. The problem is nap. Our school (it's new for us) seems to allow a 1.5 hour nap. That sounds really long. How long is your nap time at daycare?

Been a long time but sounds about right. There was maybe 45 minute nap in kindergarten. My teenager has turned into a vampire, up half the night. Sleep struggle is cyclical hopefully she grows out of soon. Good luck.

That sounds normal for me, too. She's probably stuck in a cycle where she's not getting enough sleep at night because she stays up so late (and then has to get up early enough to go to daycare, so no catch up in the morning). And then she's sleeping for the full nap time because she's so tired.

You could try doing a reset over a long weekend, where you move up bedtime to earlier in the evening, limit her to a 1 hour nap, and repeat for all three days.

I would bet most of the kids in her PK class do not sleep the full 1.5 hours, but I don't think it's weird to let a kid who seems to need it sleep that long, especially if she seems like she might be overtired from staying up so late.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is almost 4. We are struggling a LOT at nighttime. It's almost 10 and she's just falling asleep. The problem is nap. Our school (it's new for us) seems to allow a 1.5 hour nap. That sounds really long. How long is your nap time at daycare?

Been a long time but sounds about right. There was maybe 45 minute nap in kindergarten. My teenager has turned into a vampire, up half the night. Sleep struggle is cyclical hopefully she grows out of soon. Good luck.

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is almost 4. We are struggling a LOT at nighttime. It's almost 10 and she's just falling asleep. The problem is nap. Our school (it's new for us) seems to allow a 1.5 hour nap. That sounds really long. How long is your nap time at daycare?