Anonymous
08/11/2020 12:49
Subject: Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Anonymous wrote:10:26 PP, I cited the statistics precisely because I know this forum is full of people that every time someone mentions pelvic floor damage they say “because vaginal birth!”.
I’m fine with whatever birth you want to have, as long as it’s informed. No birth choice will make you better. Saying that pelvic floor damage has to be accepted when you have a vaginal birth is not informed. If you prefer a c-section that’s fine, but don’t push it on others under false arguments.
You actually didn’t cite any real statistics.
Anonymous
08/11/2020 12:40
Subject: Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
10:26 PP, I cited the statistics precisely because I know this forum is full of people that every time someone mentions pelvic floor damage they say “because vaginal birth!”.
I’m fine with whatever birth you want to have, as long as it’s informed. No birth choice will make you better. Saying that pelvic floor damage has to be accepted when you have a vaginal birth is not informed. If you prefer a c-section that’s fine, but don’t push it on others under false arguments.
I’m fine with whatever birth you want to have, as long as it’s informed. No birth choice will make you better. Saying that pelvic floor damage has to be accepted when you have a vaginal birth is not informed. If you prefer a c-section that’s fine, but don’t push it on others under false arguments.
Anonymous
08/11/2020 12:12
Subject: Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Ive given birth 3x. All the women I know with damage were trying to be "natural". I tell my doctor I dont want natural.
My pelvic floor is fine. I induce as early as possible. All healthy newborns.
My pelvic floor is fine. I induce as early as possible. All healthy newborns.
Anonymous
08/11/2020 11:40
Subject: Re:Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who the heck thinks men have a “right” to sexual function?
LMAO. Like every man ever and about 50% of pick me ass women.
And pharmaceutical and insurance companies.
And the government and justice system.
Anonymous
08/11/2020 11:18
Subject: Re:Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who the heck thinks men have a “right” to sexual function?
LMAO. Like every man ever and about 50% of pick me ass women.
And pharmaceutical and insurance companies.
Anonymous
08/11/2020 11:17
Subject: Re:Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Anonymous wrote:Who the heck thinks men have a “right” to sexual function?
LMAO. Like every man ever and about 50% of pick me ass women.
Anonymous
08/11/2020 11:15
Subject: Re:Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Anonymous wrote:Who the heck thinks men have a “right” to sexual function?
Go check out the relationship forum
Anonymous
08/11/2020 11:13
Subject: Re:Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Who the heck thinks men have a “right” to sexual function?
Anonymous
08/11/2020 11:02
Subject: Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1. To avoid this, read and prepare yourself on how to avoid pelvic floor damage. Be ready to advocate for yourself.
Statistics of models with fewer medical interventions have a completely different distribution of pelvic floor damage, so this is not something normal that comes with vaginal birth that we just have to accept. See for one the statistics of Ina May Gaskin’s center, there are similar statistics available for birth centers in the UK and Australia.
c sections reduce pelvic floor damage.
Not really, no. Wouldn't it be nice if it did?
Yes, it does. Which isn’t to say you won’t develop a pelvic floor disorder since pregnancy causes damage, too. But c sections have some degree of protectiveness.
“Vaginal childbirth is associated with increased incidence of SUI and pelvic organ prolapse. The association of other pelvic floor disorders with vaginal birth is less well established; however, operative vaginal delivery is associated with overactive bladder symptoms.“
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3681820/
Anonymous
08/11/2020 10:58
Subject: Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1. To avoid this, read and prepare yourself on how to avoid pelvic floor damage. Be ready to advocate for yourself.
Statistics of models with fewer medical interventions have a completely different distribution of pelvic floor damage, so this is not something normal that comes with vaginal birth that we just have to accept. See for one the statistics of Ina May Gaskin’s center, there are similar statistics available for birth centers in the UK and Australia.
c sections reduce pelvic floor damage.
Not really, no. Wouldn't it be nice if it did?
Anonymous
08/11/2020 10:54
Subject: Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Anonymous wrote:+1. To avoid this, read and prepare yourself on how to avoid pelvic floor damage. Be ready to advocate for yourself.
Statistics of models with fewer medical interventions have a completely different distribution of pelvic floor damage, so this is not something normal that comes with vaginal birth that we just have to accept. See for one the statistics of Ina May Gaskin’s center, there are similar statistics available for birth centers in the UK and Australia.
And also, this is nonsensical thinking. Plenty of women in my online support groups for pelvic organ prolapse and levator ani avulsion has lovely midwife-assisted deliveries with minimal to no medical intervention. So your argument doesn’t hold water.
Anonymous
08/11/2020 10:49
Subject: Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Anonymous wrote:+1. To avoid this, read and prepare yourself on how to avoid pelvic floor damage. Be ready to advocate for yourself.
Statistics of models with fewer medical interventions have a completely different distribution of pelvic floor damage, so this is not something normal that comes with vaginal birth that we just have to accept. See for one the statistics of Ina May Gaskin’s center, there are similar statistics available for birth centers in the UK and Australia.
Unless of course you’ve already sustained the damage. In which case, yes, you do have to accept it if treatment doesn’t work and surgery fails. Happens to a crap ton of us.
Anonymous
08/11/2020 10:35
Subject: Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
Anonymous wrote:+1. To avoid this, read and prepare yourself on how to avoid pelvic floor damage. Be ready to advocate for yourself.
Statistics of models with fewer medical interventions have a completely different distribution of pelvic floor damage, so this is not something normal that comes with vaginal birth that we just have to accept. See for one the statistics of Ina May Gaskin’s center, there are similar statistics available for birth centers in the UK and Australia.
c sections reduce pelvic floor damage.
Anonymous
08/11/2020 10:26
Subject: Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
+1. To avoid this, read and prepare yourself on how to avoid pelvic floor damage. Be ready to advocate for yourself.
Statistics of models with fewer medical interventions have a completely different distribution of pelvic floor damage, so this is not something normal that comes with vaginal birth that we just have to accept. See for one the statistics of Ina May Gaskin’s center, there are similar statistics available for birth centers in the UK and Australia.
Statistics of models with fewer medical interventions have a completely different distribution of pelvic floor damage, so this is not something normal that comes with vaginal birth that we just have to accept. See for one the statistics of Ina May Gaskin’s center, there are similar statistics available for birth centers in the UK and Australia.
Anonymous
08/11/2020 10:17
Subject: Does anyone else think women’s sexual function is viewed as a a luxury, while men’s as a right?
That’s in regards to how little doctors, l&d nurses, and society care about pelvic floor damage in women. It’s pretty much something that you are supposed to surrender to without being given choices