Anonymous
07/30/2020 10:03
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Anonymous wrote:We're not talking about a "gap" year, here. We're talking about a "lost" year.
That's the OP's point. It won't be lost if we let kids reenter the same grade they missed out on this year for in person learning.
I like it.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 10:01
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
We're not talking about a "gap" year, here. We're talking about a "lost" year.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:59
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I like it and would definitely go for it.
I'd love to not have to worry about sending my kids in person or the crappy nature of online schooling.
You have no way of knowing if online schooling will be crappy.
Uh, we have last spring as an example??
We're in NY. They didn't even attempt to do live in person teaching through streaming. They just posted assignments and never corrected them or retaught, etc. Or taught them in the first place.
If any learning went on, it was because parents had to teach their kids themselves.
They say they are going to do streaming this year but I've heard from friends in other states that it's a shit show anyway and not worth the effort.
I'm a teacher in New York and I most definitely DID teach live and post videos of myself demonstrating and explaining skills for those who did not attend. Even if your child's teacher did not, they still posted assignments and work for your child, according to you. I doubt fall will go well for your child if you are already dismissing live teaching as a "shit show" and "not worth the effort". Try going into the fall with a better attitude and your child will benefit.
I had many parents in my class who had the same attitude because they thought that the shutdown would just be for a few weeks. When it became apparent that this wasn't the case, a few of them rushed to catch up on the work and the rest just shrugged and continued ignoring the whole thing. I called these parents daily at first, then every other day, then once a week. I kept a careful log of each outreach in our online system so that I have evidence when parents turn around and try to blame this on us for not doing enough.
Good luck in the fall.
Don't worry about me, I already hired a private tutor.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:58
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Anonymous wrote:Who is going to pay these sky high school taxes and then have no schooling? Are you proposing we just lay off all of the school staff for a year? That we pay them and then tell them not to do any teaching?
No. I am proposing a compromise. We do 100% DL this year. Teachers and staff get paid at their same rate. Then, when there is a vaccine widely distributed (hopefully by fall 2021), any kids who want to will reenter the same grade for in person learning.
Yes it will cost a shit ton of money. But this is the next generation we're talking about. It should be our highest priority.
If we can give the airlines and other corporations a trillion dollar bailout, we can do it for schools too.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:58
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I like it and would definitely go for it.
I'd love to not have to worry about sending my kids in person or the crappy nature of online schooling.
You have no way of knowing if online schooling will be crappy.
Uh, we have last spring as an example??
We're in NY. They didn't even attempt to do live in person teaching through streaming. They just posted assignments and never corrected them or retaught, etc. Or taught them in the first place.
If any learning went on, it was because parents had to teach their kids themselves.
They say they are going to do streaming this year but I've heard from friends in other states that it's a shit show anyway and not worth the effort.
I'm a teacher in New York and I most definitely DID teach live and post videos of myself demonstrating and explaining skills for those who did not attend. Even if your child's teacher did not, they still posted assignments and work for your child, according to you. I doubt fall will go well for your child if you are already dismissing live teaching as a "shit show" and "not worth the effort". Try going into the fall with a better attitude and your child will benefit.
I had many parents in my class who had the same attitude because they thought that the shutdown would just be for a few weeks. When it became apparent that this wasn't the case, a few of them rushed to catch up on the work and the rest just shrugged and continued ignoring the whole thing. I called these parents daily at first, then every other day, then once a week. I kept a careful log of each outreach in our online system so that I have evidence when parents turn around and try to blame this on us for not doing enough.
Good luck in the fall.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:53
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Who is going to pay these sky high school taxes and then have no schooling? Are you proposing we just lay off all of the school staff for a year? That we pay them and then tell them not to do any teaching?
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:53
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Long game: It wouldn’t work financially for some low income families or families where CS ends at 18 or HS grad, but definitely before 19. DH and I will continue to support our youngest two past June of the year they turn 18, as we did with the older two, but we know other families that truly cannot. They need legal adults to work FT. Unless the laws will change to require welfare or CS for 19 year olds still in HS, this won’t work.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:48
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I like it and would definitely go for it.
I'd love to not have to worry about sending my kids in person or the crappy nature of online schooling.
You have no way of knowing if online schooling will be crappy.
Uh, we have last spring as an example??
We're in NY. They didn't even attempt to do live in person teaching through streaming. They just posted assignments and never corrected them or retaught, etc. Or taught them in the first place.
If any learning went on, it was because parents had to teach their kids themselves.
They say they are going to do streaming this year but I've heard from friends in other states that it's a shit show anyway and not worth the effort.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:47
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Anonymous wrote:I like it and would definitely go for it.
I'd love to not have to worry about sending my kids in person or the crappy nature of online schooling.
You have no way of knowing if online schooling will be crappy.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:46
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
I would love to have that option.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:46
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
I like it and would definitely go for it.
I'd love to not have to worry about sending my kids in person or the crappy nature of online schooling.
I'd love to not have to worry about sending my kids in person or the crappy nature of online schooling.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:45
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Interesting - but what I think will happen is all of the curriculums will have to be adjusted for catch-up. Might miss some social studies/art while focus on math, reading, and writing.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:45
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Anonymous wrote:What? It satisfies no one. There are a million reasons why. Let's start with:
Do you then tell the incoming class of K to just not attend school? If not, then you have a huge swell of kids to teach - who is paying for that?
They stay home and the federal government pays. Obviously.
Actually, this might be the stick that gets the federal government to enact truly universal prek 3-4 everywhere.
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:43
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
What? It satisfies no one. There are a million reasons why. Let's start with:
Do you then tell the incoming class of K to just not attend school? If not, then you have a huge swell of kids to teach - who is paying for that?
Do you then tell the incoming class of K to just not attend school? If not, then you have a huge swell of kids to teach - who is paying for that?
Anonymous
07/30/2020 09:39
Subject: Do you think a national "gap year" would work as a compromise solution?
Do 100% remote learning this year but don't sweat it like we're currently doing because at the end, every kid who wants to will start the grade over in person. I would assume that most high school seniors and juniors won't want to, so that'll reduce some backlog.
Money will be an issue but look. If we can bail out every corporation without any watchdog regulations, we should bail out students and teachers too.
How come no one is talking about this as a potential solution? It would satisfy everyone.
Money will be an issue but look. If we can bail out every corporation without any watchdog regulations, we should bail out students and teachers too.
How come no one is talking about this as a potential solution? It would satisfy everyone.