Anonymous wrote:how much of colleges postponing has to do with leagues not wanting to force schools to bring kids back on campus? I think parents separately driving to fields where less than 30 kids play on a field and then driving home separately is not the same level of risk as a coach filled with dozens of students and staff traveling to a stadium, having a game and then returning to drop the kids off at dorms

Here is the thing. Most people can not go to work because their place of business is closed, reduced to essential employees or working at home- ie it is not safe. Now they are trying to open schools. Many school districts will stay closed and do DL- ie not safe. Colleges are doing DL and canceling fall sports- ie not safe. Some how youth travel sports will buck the trend and continue? Does not seem likely.

Let’s face it. Youth travel sports are flying under the radar right now. If you make a list of things you should not do during a pandemic, travel sports will check a lot of boxes in the no column.

If college sports were to go forward, colleges would have even more pressure to return students to campus. I think no college sports is a side effect of schools not wanting students on campus, but that's just speculation on my part

Anonymous wrote:It is not encouraging, but there are a number of additional factors that come into play for college sports. Things like shared residential facilities and travel. How and where to separate and isolate an ill player if necessary, what is the college's responsibility for that player's care who is away from home etc.

That set of issues is simpler for youth soccer. Doesn't mean it will happen, but I don't think college cancellation directly leads to cancellation of the corresponding youth sport.

Nobody said it was predictive or correlates. What was said was it was a indicator of CONFIDENCE. There are far more variables for college than youth sports but the confidence indicates a very sketchy road for the fall. And for all the variables for colleges postponing fall sport seasons is not a decision they take likely. The magnitude of the decisions should be concerning for any fall youth sport.

Kids will be back to school in the fall, at least those who had the choice of hybrid and chose hybrid. This is a variable summer sports like baseball did not have to contend with.

It is not encouraging, but there are a number of additional factors that come into play for college sports. Things like shared residential facilities and travel. How and where to separate and isolate an ill player if necessary, what is the college's responsibility for that player's care who is away from home etc.

That set of issues is simpler for youth soccer. Doesn't mean it will happen, but I don't think college cancellation directly leads to cancellation of the corresponding youth sport.

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I believe we will have fall soccer but not the way it has been in the past and I will be happy to take what we can get.

I think we have a fall season because leagues know their members will start folding without one. It will look different and probably be scaled back, but I think we have enough of a season to justify fall fees

NVSL swim should be in season. Teams are practicing and doing virtual meets, but the season was cancelled

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Anonymous wrote:Well, they are very different things. We shall see--I have seen travel baseball playing.

Nobody has drawn any conclusions about what it means for youth soccer. But when baseball started numbers were level but our numbers are now starting to climb back up.

This is a very fluid situation but I would not dismiss the postponement of fall collegiate seasons as a nothing burger for youth sports. One is certainly a much bigger machine to simply change course BUT they did change course with certainly far more on the line than say NCSL. It is both easier to start and stop a season for NCSL than it is a D1 program.

Again, the frustrating part on these boards is for many people to not see the nuance in things or the shades of gray.

Scaled and proportional risk is one thing but folks seem to just want everything at once without any level of patience.

Postponing the A10 doesn't mean local youth soccer is going to be cancelled but it is certainly a canary in the mine-shaft that the fall will likely not go very smoothly either for local youth soccer.

rates may have gone up, but guess what? more people went to more stores that were open during that time also. there is zero correlation between youth sports and covid rates. i'm happy to learn about them should they be scientifically proven.

We have no idea how the fall season will go but it will most likely not be normal. It could be very front loaded will lots of double header weekends. Tournaments may be much smaller and more local or it could all be just peachy. My guess is based on local school plans, college sport postponements and the current trends is that people such as yourself are in for a lot of heartburn this fall if you don't build in some intellectual flexibility on the matter.

I believe we will have fall soccer but not the way it has been in the past and I will be happy to take what we can get.

And outside of baseball what youth sports are really even in session right now? Its friggin summer. There were virtually no youth sports in the spring and very limited youth sports in active season currently. So one cannot draw a correlation from something that simply doesn't exist in large enough numbers.

What bubble do you think soccer is insulated by? Fall high school sports in VA are postponed till spring. And if High schools are not using their fields do you think they are letting soccer clubs use them? It doesn't mean leagues will cancel but if access to HS fields are denied it makes schedules and field availability harder.

Anonymous wrote:how much of colleges postponing has to do with leagues not wanting to force schools to bring kids back on campus? I think parents separately driving to fields where less than 30 kids play on a field and then driving home separately is not the same level of risk as a coach filled with dozens of students and staff traveling to a stadium, having a game and then returning to drop the kids off at dorms

That makes sense. Could be. I have read that some local private high schools were considering allowing sports on as long as all participants provided their own transportation. No buses. Whether that will happen remains to be seen.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, they are very different things. We shall see--I have seen travel baseball playing.

Nobody has drawn any conclusions about what it means for youth soccer. But when baseball started numbers were level but our numbers are now starting to climb back up.

This is a very fluid situation but I would not dismiss the postponement of fall collegiate seasons as a nothing burger for youth sports. One is certainly a much bigger machine to simply change course BUT they did change course with certainly far more on the line than say NCSL. It is both easier to start and stop a season for NCSL than it is a D1 program.

Again, the frustrating part on these boards is for many people to not see the nuance in things or the shades of gray.

Scaled and proportional risk is one thing but folks seem to just want everything at once without any level of patience.

Postponing the A10 doesn't mean local youth soccer is going to be cancelled but it is certainly a canary in the mine-shaft that the fall will likely not go very smoothly either for local youth soccer.

rates may have gone up, but guess what? more people went to more stores that were open during that time also. there is zero correlation between youth sports and covid rates. i'm happy to learn about them should they be scientifically proven.

how much of colleges postponing has to do with leagues not wanting to force schools to bring kids back on campus? I think parents separately driving to fields where less than 30 kids play on a field and then driving home separately is not the same level of risk as a coach filled with dozens of students and staff traveling to a stadium, having a game and then returning to drop the kids off at dorms

Anonymous wrote:Well, they are very different things. We shall see--I have seen travel baseball playing.

Nobody has drawn any conclusions about what it means for youth soccer. But when baseball started numbers were level but our numbers are now starting to climb back up.

This is a very fluid situation but I would not dismiss the postponement of fall collegiate seasons as a nothing burger for youth sports. One is certainly a much bigger machine to simply change course BUT they did change course with certainly far more on the line than say NCSL. It is both easier to start and stop a season for NCSL than it is a D1 program.

Again, the frustrating part on these boards is for many people to not see the nuance in things or the shades of gray.

Scaled and proportional risk is one thing but folks seem to just want everything at once without any level of patience.

Postponing the A10 doesn't mean local youth soccer is going to be cancelled but it is certainly a canary in the mine-shaft that the fall will likely not go very smoothly either for local youth soccer.

Well, they are very different things. We shall see--I have seen travel baseball playing.

Anonymous wrote:Well this should not have any impact on travel soccer....lol!

It is very clearly a measure of confidence in the ability to do things normally and safely this coming fall.

VA has cancelled HS football for the fall as well as most fall sports in hopes of playing in the spring.

How many travel league games are played on HS fields? How many of those fields will be made available for league play if the schools will not use them?

Well this should not have any impact on travel soccer....lol!

The Atlantic 10 Conference today announced the postponement of all scheduled fall contests in conference-sponsored sports and A-10 championships due to the continuing COVID-19 global pandemic. This includes men’s and women’s soccer, field hockey, men’s and women’s cross country and volleyball. The fall competitive schedules for men’s golf, men’s and women’s tennis, men’s and women’s swimming and diving, and women’s rowing will also be postponed, as will non-traditional competition seasons for baseball, softball and women’s lacrosse.